Not enough calories is a problem.....EASY WAYS TO FIX THAT

**BWhitaker** · 07-01-2004, 05:30 PM

Ok, i know that this is the steroid forum but i believe that while on cycle, you must make sure you are in a positive calorie balance by a lot while bulking. Also i believe that it is very important to keep these calories as clean as possible. I know that this is a problem for some people so i thought it would be nice to get the members to share some of their quick calorie fixes that help if they arent able to make a full meal

I like to do this in the form of a shake:

2 cups 2% milk
1.5 cups whole oats
1 scoop protien

Ends up with around 55 gms protein, 775 calories and almost all of the carbs are complex....and the little sugar from the milk does me well. It is a shake, but with the large amount of oats it really is more like whole food. Just make sure you have a blender not a shaker.

Add on if you would like

**bubbathegut** · 07-01-2004, 05:35 PM

i have always thought about putting oatmeal in a blender, what does it taste like, when its blended, do u eat it or drink it...

**palme** · 07-01-2004, 05:38 PM

Even less fat if you use water

And an old trick...

**SKiN** · 07-01-2004, 05:43 PM

Sounds good.
Hey Palme nice lookin dog. how big is he

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 07-01-2004, 05:43 PM

THANKS Bros....... I have been dealing with this problem ALL day. Trying to get MORE calories but staying clean. Thanks again

**BWhitaker** · 07-01-2004, 05:45 PM

yeah, i figured it has been done before.

For me, when im bulking i like the added calories and fat from 2%, but of course that can change.

I have actually never done it in water so i dont know what it is like, however, with a good tasting protein powder and milk (i have even done juice before) it is actually quite good. Just as long and you dont think thoughts of vomit the consitancy isnt bad. I figure im doing this for the calories, not for pleasure even though it is actually not bad. And it only takes me 30 seconds to do it start to finish.

PS--i cant eat 3 servings of oatmeal without a ton of sugar, but use the blender and it is cake

**Pump101** · 07-01-2004, 05:45 PM

Nice, going to try that later

**John88Test** · 07-01-2004, 05:46 PM

may sound stupid...but...eat lots of red meat...when ur at work or whatever...eat beef jerky...and lots of it...u can buy a HUGE bag for pretty cheap at Costco or Sams Club or whatever wholesale place u have around u....meat meat meat...

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 07-01-2004, 05:47 PM

Do you use whey protein with that or what?

**BWhitaker** · 07-01-2004, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by lfcdeke

may sound stupid...but...eat lots of red meat...when ur at work or whatever...eat beef jerky...and lots of it...u can buy a HUGE bag for pretty cheap at Costco or Sams Club or whatever wholesale place u have around u....meat meat meat...

very true...but for me the problem isnt finding an easy way to find quick protein--it has always been finding those complex carbs.

**BWhitaker** · 07-01-2004, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Tryin2getHUGE

Do you use whey protein with that or what?

yeah i use whey

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 07-01-2004, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by lfcdeke

may sound stupid...but...eat lots of red meat...when ur at work or whatever...eat beef jerky...and lots of it...u can buy a HUGE bag for pretty cheap at Costco or Sams Club or whatever wholesale place u have around u....meat meat meat...

what about all the extra sodium in jerky?

**bluethunder** · 07-01-2004, 06:22 PM

I have a complete MRP. Sometimes I add a banana/strawberries, Mixed with skim milk. The MRP has the complete protein profiles ie,whey, casien ect. Also during the day I have skim milk mixed with Just 100% whey. It adds up to approx. 80 g.. Along with 2 multi-vitamin in am & pm, flax oil, BCAA's. Glutamine peptide

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 07-01-2004, 06:39 PM

wrong forum but on topic, so what is best to eat at work for clean calories? In addition to chicken breasts, egg whites, ham sandwiches, tuna, chicken salad, etc

**BWhitaker** · 07-01-2004, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Tryin2getHUGE

wrong forum but on topic, so what is best to eat at work for clean calories? In addition to chicken breasts, egg whites, ham sandwiches, tuna, chicken salad, etc

Like i said, protein isnt really the hard part. It is the complex carbs. It also depends on your job...for me mine is fast paced and i really cant sit down and eat a meal. I usually just drink lemonade over the entire shift which usually ends up being 500 or so sugar calories and i eat my chicken. Yes that is a lot of sugar but i am always on the move, and i try to even it out throughout the entire shift. If anyone has some good carb ways to do this without having a prepared meal that you need a fork for then let me know

**BWhitaker** · 07-01-2004, 07:16 PM

A lot of MRP are very expensive and many of them lack a good quality carb source

**Opey** · 07-01-2004, 07:21 PM

why dont you try a complex carb powder with your shakes? that is where i get alot of my carbs from.

**nickrizz** · 07-01-2004, 07:22 PM

looking for a shake like this, im going to give it a try, trying to bulk up

**bubbathegut** · 07-01-2004, 07:23 PM

so its like eating vomit then right?

**BWhitaker** · 07-01-2004, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by bubbathegut

so its like eating vomit then right?

no not at all...just the consistancy is what i think eating vomit would be like. It is actually a pretty good taste as far as MRP is concerned, just has a thick grainy consistancy

**Lozgod** · 07-01-2004, 07:27 PM

I like that shake, however if you are like me and embrace dietary fat instead of avoiding it then if you did it with whole milk it would have even more calories. I can eat all the fat I want and not get fat, but now sugar is another story. I go on a week long sugar binge I'm screwed. I'll gain like a mofo.

**nickrizz** · 07-01-2004, 07:33 PM

im going to make it with whole milk i need the cals

**BWhitaker** · 07-01-2004, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by Opey

why dont you try a complex carb powder with your shakes? that is where i get alot of my carbs from.

complex carb powder...never heard of it. Where do you get it

**craneboy** · 07-01-2004, 07:46 PM

im guessing you cook the oats first?

**nickrizz** · 07-01-2004, 07:46 PM

you can buy it on many sites, i think allsportsnutrition sells some, let me check

**nickrizz** · 07-01-2004, 07:48 PM

i dont think he cooks them. and the carbs in the past came with no flavor, and now they are all flavored so they are hard to mix. a vanilla protein shake doesnt taste good with orange carbs powder mixed in

**SportsMedVIP** · 07-01-2004, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by BWhitaker

complex carb powder...never heard of it. Where do you get it

Me either. I'm interested.

**BWhitaker** · 07-01-2004, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by craneboy

im guessing you cook the oats first?

nope...just put them it

**Lozgod** · 07-01-2004, 07:49 PM

I never heard of complex carb powder either.

**DADDYDBOL** · 07-01-2004, 07:51 PM

i take wheat bagels to work with me and can have a protien shake and a bagel (which i down in 3-4 bites) which works good for a fast good meal....2 scoops of whey with 16oz of whole milk is around 50g protein and the bagel is 55g carbs...

i saw this a couple of weeks ago...its really good....not many carbs but...2 cups of milk, 6 egg whites, 2 full eggs, and 2 huge scoops of mint chocolate chip ice cream. and its like 1000 calories right off the bat. 6 eggs is like 400 calories...

i'll try yours but i have a stupid ?....you cook the oatmeal or just use it as is?

**DADDYDBOL** · 07-01-2004, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by BWhitaker

nope...just put them it

ok...never mind above....

**nickrizz** · 07-01-2004, 07:53 PM

im almost positive ive seen the complex protein powder on some web site, its sold in HUGE tubs, ill let you guys know

**SportsMedVIP** · 07-01-2004, 07:56 PM

I like to throw two scoops protein powder (~45g's protein, minimal carbs and fat) in with some water and ice. Suck that down. Then slam atleast one cup of low fat cottage cheese. The cheese adds ~20g's protein, ~20g's carbs from sugar, and 2-3g's fat(figured off two cups). It's great before bed to get the fast absorbed whey protein and then sit on the slow absorbing protein from the cottage cheese for the rest of the night. Makes for less break in you fast.

**SportsMedVIP** · 07-01-2004, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL

i take wheat bagels to work with me and can have a protien shake and a bagel (which i down in 3-4 bites) which works good for a fast good meal....2 scoops of whey with 16oz of whole milk is around 50g protein and the bagel is 55g carbs...

i saw this a couple of weeks ago...its really good....not many carbs but...2 cups of milk, 6 egg whites, 2 full eggs, and 2 huge scoops of mint chocolate chip ice cream. and its like 1000 calories right off the bat. 6 eggs is like 400 calories...

i'll try yours but i have a stupid ?....you cook the oatmeal or just use it as is?

I assume you're talking about bulking but the ice cream just doesn't sound wise to me unless on a cheat day. But that's just me and my body composition.

**BWhitaker** · 07-01-2004, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by ECoastVIP

I assume you're talking about bulking but the ice cream just doesn't sound wise to me unless on a cheat day. But that's just me and my body composition.

exactly...i mean that sounds like it is really good, but still a little too bad.

Dont expect the one i posted to taste like that lol

**beefydragon** · 07-01-2004, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by lfcdeke

may sound stupid...but...eat lots of red meat...when ur at work or whatever...eat beef jerky...and lots of it...u can buy a HUGE bag for pretty cheap at Costco or Sams Club or whatever wholesale place u have around u....meat meat meat...

Don't get me started. I love beef jerky!!! Unforutnately they're so high in sodium... Otherwise I'd eat it all day.

BD

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 07-01-2004, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by BWhitaker

Like i said, protein isnt really the hard part. It is the complex carbs. It also depends on your job...for me mine is fast paced and i really cant sit down and eat a meal. I usually just drink lemonade over the entire shift which usually ends up being 500 or so sugar calories and i eat my chicken. Yes that is a lot of sugar but i am always on the move, and i try to even it out throughout the entire shift. If anyone has some good carb ways to do this without having a prepared meal that you need a fork for then let me know

Well I have a sales job where I am at a desk basically all day. So I can eat whatever the diet gods tell me in order to get my darn calories ED. So any suggestions would be helpful. I am gonna do those shakes you suggested in the am and pm as well as protein shakes all day long and other food. So what should I do for clean calories, I can have the meals but I am picky. I dont do any seafood except tunafish, so I am picky.

**nickrizz** · 07-01-2004, 08:27 PM

beef jerky is crazy expensive, no?

**BWhitaker** · 07-01-2004, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Tryin2getHUGE

Well I have a sales job where I am at a desk basically all day. So I can eat whatever the diet gods tell me in order to get my darn calories ED. So any suggestions would be helpful. I am gonna do those shakes you suggested in the am and pm as well as protein shakes all day long and other food. So what should I do for clean calories, I can have the meals but I am picky. I dont do any seafood except tunafish, so I am picky.

Lucky you with the desk job...working my way through grad school is gonna be fun, not. Just make sure you dont premix the protein powders. Try to bring whole food to work it you can....some grilled chicken or steak. If not, can you make my shake at work...if so eat that there and then eat more whole food at home