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    Question searching for wisdom?

    I am about to start my first cycle next week. I will be doing a 12 week cycle stacking deca 400mg a week with 30mg of d bol a day. I am also taking 20mg of nolvadex a day. Im 510 a weigh 202lbs. My goal to get to 220lbs of solid muscle without to much water gain. Can this be acheived and is this the right stack for my goals?

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    no it's not a good stack bro.. deca will shut down your HPTA hard and cause deca dick.. you should run test alone for a first cycle or test and dbol .

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    Well everyone is gonna burn you cause you don't have test in your cycle..and they are right....Don't get me wrong you'll gain weight from Deca and Dbol but you will have sexual problems and I don't think you will keep much of the gains.....Drop the Dbol and do Test and Deca..you'll be much happier.

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    Nice post Palequail...

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    Quote Originally Posted by palequail
    Well everyone is gonna burn you cause you don't have test in your cycle..and they are right....Don't get me wrong you'll gain weight from Deca and Dbol but you will have sexual problems and I don't think you will keep much of the gains.....Drop the Dbol and do Test and Deca..you'll be much happier.
    Agreed, or test and d-bol. For the sake of detail look into something like this:
    Test Enanthate @ 400mg EW weeks 1-12
    Deca @ 300mg EW weeks 1-10

    or ......

    Test Enanthate @ 400mg EW weeks 1-12
    D-Bol @ 30mg ED weeks 1-4

    With both you'll want Clomid and Nolva. With the Deca cycle you'll also want B-6 in abundance. With the D-bol cycle you'll want plenty of Milk Thistle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECoastVIP
    Agreed, or test and d-bol. For the sake of detail look into something like this:
    Test Enanthate @ 400mg EW weeks 1-12
    Deca @ 300mg EW weeks 1-10

    or ......

    Test Enanthate @ 400mg EW weeks 1-12
    D-Bol @ 30mg ED weeks 1-4

    With both you'll want Clomid and Nolva. With the Deca cycle you'll also want B-6 in abundance. With the D-bol cycle you'll want plenty of Milk Thistle.
    I think you've just earned another rep point.

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    others already said it TC. If you run that cycle "as is" you can expect to hold water. If your goal is only 18lbs perhaps if you work hard enough you can gain 5lbs in 12wks naturally. But anyways , good luck
    Last edited by bluethunder; 07-02-2004 at 08:21 AM.

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    test is a must i have come to learn, EQ is also very very good if you want to sub that for the dec. most people use dbol to jump start the cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECoastVIP
    Agreed, or test and d-bol. For the sake of detail look into something like this:
    Test Enanthate @ 400mg EW weeks 1-12
    Deca @ 300mg EW weeks 1-10

    or ......

    Test Enanthate @ 400mg EW weeks 1-12
    D-Bol @ 30mg ED weeks 1-4

    With both you'll want Clomid and Nolva. With the Deca cycle you'll also want B-6 in abundance. With the D-bol cycle you'll want plenty of Milk Thistle.
    Nuff said

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