next cycle

**canon808** · 08-01-2004, 10:55 AM

hey bros. im starting my next cycle in sept. it is kind of extensive and i need a little info. wk 1-12 deca 400 mg
wk 1-20 cyp 500mg
i ran deca my last cycle at 250mg a week and loved the results minus the bloated look. but i want to do another bulk cycle with it and wanted to know if its a good choice.... also for pct. i have read pheednos pct but since i am going to run the cyp for 20 weeks should nolva n l-dex be rann 18 days after last inject of deca....thanx

**juiceinthehood** · 08-01-2004, 11:11 AM

cyp and deca are good mass builders this is what i would do
1-14 test cyp 600mg 300mg 2x a wk
1-13 deca 500mg 250mg 2x a wk
1-17 10mg nolva .25 ldex ed
18-21 nolva 20mg ed
17-20 clomid 100mg ed
get some femara for the prolactin levels
also use b-5 for acne
this is how i would do it

**max-it** · 08-01-2004, 11:15 AM

I agree with juice, I am going to do a similiar cycle in 4 weeks. Except I will run dbol weeks 1-4. You should have great gains from juice's suggestion. I agree with him on not running the cyp 20 weeks, remember, time on = time off.

**canon808** · 08-01-2004, 11:24 AM

thank you guys i had a 20lb gain from last cycle and kept 15 of it so far... so wks 17-20 i dont need to go 300-100-50 on clomid?

**juiceinthehood** · 08-01-2004, 11:24 AM

you will have nice gains off this cycle if you eat right and train hard and proper pct will help u keep most of it good luck and if u cant get femara get some b-6 it will help with the deca gyno

**juiceinthehood** · 08-01-2004, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by canon808

thank you guys i had a 20lb gain from last cycle and kept 15 of it so far... so wks 17-20 i dont need to go 300-100-50 on clomid?

you could that is the norm i usually go 100mg ed for 4 weeks on longer cycles like u said pheednos pct he is a very knowledgable bro i would go with his pct if anything

**max-it** · 08-01-2004, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by canon808

wk 1-20 cyp 500mg

This is what I was referring to. I mean, if this is what you want to do then by all means. My suggestion was to not run the cyp for 20 weeks because of the time needed for recovery after the cycle before you start another one. Time on (including PCT) = Time off. So you will be looking at approx. 25 weeks before you can start your next cycle.

As for PCT you will want to start your clomid 18 days after your last cyp injection. Yes you will need to run the clomid in the manner discussed on this board several times before.

**juiceinthehood** · 08-01-2004, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by max-it

This is what I was referring to. I mean, if this is what you want to do then by all means. My suggestion was to not run the cyp for 20 weeks because of the time needed for recovery after the cycle before you start another one. Time on (including PCT) = Time off. So you will be looking at approx. 25 weeks before you can start your next cycle.

As for PCT you will want to start your clomid 18 days after your last cyp injection. Yes you will need to run the clomid in the manner discussed on this board several times before.

pct would be started 2 weeks after last cyp shot u would run test 1 week past deca bcuz deca takes 3 weeks to clear and the cyp 2 weeks

**max-it** · 08-01-2004, 11:39 AM

This may help too. PCT start time by drug type.

Anadrol /Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca : 21 days after last injection
Dianabol : 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise : 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon : 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate : 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate : 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate : 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension : 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol : 24 hours after last administration

**juiceinthehood** · 08-01-2004, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by max-it

This may help too. PCT start time by drug type.

Anadrol /Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca : 21 days after last injection
Dianabol : 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise : 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon : 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate : 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate : 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate : 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension : 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 24 hours after last administration

my bad bros i guess got test e and cyp confused good catch max it thanks for the correction

**Big_Diesel** · 08-01-2004, 11:47 AM

If you guys are gettign bloat on low doses of Deca you better check your source. Deca does not cause bloating until about 600mg. There are alot of UG labs using test and calling it Deca. Beware