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    How long after PH cycle

    Hey guys,

    I just finished a 5 week 1-test cycle and am planning to do a first cycle on real gear (deca and sus 250) Question is, do I need to wait a couple more weeks while I finish my 1-test post cycle.

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    time on = time off...

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    Ya and u should research a diff first cycle like test or test plus something

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    Try test e or test c for 12 weeks for a first cycle, maybe a dbol kickstart if you like.

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    deca /sus would work, but for a first cycle sust isnt realllt the best choice

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    Why is it a bad choice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardgainer1
    Why is it a bad choice?
    Sust sometimes is a bad choice for a newbie because Sust need to be injected EOD (every other day) and to new guys, thats a lot!!!

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    aye! Well I am going to be "supervised" by experienced users on this one. But looks like im going to have to wait till august anyway so I can properlly recover from my 1-test cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardgainer1
    aye! Well I am going to be "supervised" by experienced users on this one. But looks like im going to have to wait till august anyway so I can properlly recover from my 1-test cycle
    OK, but we have a lot of guys who said they will be supervised by experienced guys, only to find out they are injecting Sust once a week. Because of the fast acting esters, it definitely has to be injected EOD to keep your blood levels stable.

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    I was checking out some of this site's beginner cycle suggestions. Those are only a twice a week shot, frankly I am a bit nervous about the needle thing/

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    When I start it Ill letchall know before I stick anything in me

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardgainer1
    When I start it Ill letchall know before I stick anything in me
    Good deal, best of luck and keep researching!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by hardgainer1
    I was checking out some of this site's beginner cycle suggestions. Those are only a twice a week shot, frankly I am a bit nervous about the needle thing/
    After a few injections you will laugh. It's painless. We all at one point were nervous. It's soooooo easy, you will wonder why you were nervous.

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    As far as BALL shrinking goes, is it a major shinkage and is it throughout your whole cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardgainer1
    As far as BALL shrinking goes, is it a major shinkage and is it throughout your whole cycle?
    It really depends on the person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardgainer1
    As far as BALL shrinking goes, is it a major shinkage and is it throughout your whole cycle?
    Demon is correct. It depends on the person. Everyone reacts differently to AS. I personally don't get that bad of shrinkage.

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    From personal experience what happened with you guys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardgainer1
    From personal experience what happened with you guys?
    I never got bad shrinkage, but I know I can barely cum. Since my chic isn't on the pill, hell, thats a good thing.

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    but thats the type of thing that is repaired with a post cycle of say clomid right?

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    Oh and get her on the Pill ASAP!!

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    yeah clomid and HCG (if need be) will get the boys back and running. Some people say that all the shrinkage goes away and the boys get back to normal size. I can not say that happened to me. They came back but are not as big as they used to be. But my cycle was harsh and they may just need more time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Deacon
    yeah clomid and HCG (if need be) will get the boys back and running. Some people say that all the shrinkage goes away and the boys get back to normal size. I can not say that happened to me. They came back but are not as big as they used to be. But my cycle was harsh and they may just need more time.
    yeah, to be honest, though mine don't shrink to the size of pea's, I have noticed that even months after PCT, They aren't what they use to be...

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    Will my girlfriend notice you think? I may have to turn down some hummers and make up an excuse like "ive got gas" lol that should keep her away

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    mine didnt notice. She had no clue

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