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    GuitarMan is offline New Member
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    first cycle. would like a little help

    i'm going to Costa Rica for 12 weeks, and juice is OTC there, so there are no legal implications for doing the cycle i've been contemplating. here's what i'm planning now:

    weeks 1-7:
    Test Enanthate 400-500mg/week
    Equipoise 400mg/week
    Nolvadex 20-30mg/day
    Vitamin B-6/200mg/day
    (i don't know if 7 weeks of EQ are going to give me joint pain, so i'd like someone's opinion on whether or not i should add some Deca and/or lower the Equipoise dosage in order to combat that, and if so, how much)

    weeks 10-12 Clomid therapy
    continue Nolva and B-6 till end of Clomid therapy

    btw i'm 5'10" 225 with about 15-16% bf and been lifting for over 4 years.

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    the EQ shouldn't have any direct effect on joint pain.

    mostly, joint pain and injury is caused by rapid gains in muscle that allow for heavier lifting without ligaments and connective tissue strengthening to accomodate the new load.

    EQ does not dry you out like winny would, so it shouldn't matter.

    the EQ will probably not kick in until week 10, so you are not correct in running it for 7 weeks unless you were to use over a gram of it/EW.

    i don't see why you wouldn't start the day you got down there to maximize legal usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarMan
    i'm going to Costa Rica for 12 weeks, and juice is OTC there, so there are no legal implications for doing the cycle i've been contemplating. here's what i'm planning now:

    weeks 1-7:
    Test Enanthate 400-500mg/week
    Equipoise 400mg/week
    Nolvadex 20-30mg/day
    Vitamin B-6/200mg/day
    (i don't know if 7 weeks of EQ are going to give me joint pain, so i'd like someone's opinion on whether or not i should add some Deca and/or lower the Equipoise dosage in order to combat that, and if so, how much)

    weeks 10-12 Clomid therapy
    continue Nolva and B-6 till end of Clomid therapy

    btw i'm 5'10" 225 with about 15-16% bf and been lifting for over 4 years.
    First off, 7 weeks on long ester AAS is not enough time to execute a cycle. You'd have to run it for at least 12 weeks. EQ is a very slow acting steroid . Enth will take about 4-5 weeks before you even begin to see gains. Here's my prefrence for a nice "quickie" cycle. Hope this helps...

    wk.1-8~100mg test prop ed
    wk.1-8~50mg fina/tren ed
    wk.1-4~35mg dbol ed

    I usually run masteron at 50mg ed wk1-8 too, but it depends on your goals for the cycle. If you wanted a leaner build without the bloat of the dbol you could take anavar @ 40mg ed wk1-6 or winny @ 40mg ed wk1-4. Take the nolva at 10mg ed throughought and bump it to 20mg PCT with clomid l-dex and 200mg ed of b-6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarMan
    i'm going to Costa Rica for 12 weeks, and juice is OTC there, so there are no legal implications for doing the cycle i've been contemplating. here's what i'm planning now:

    weeks 1-7:
    Test Enanthate 400-500mg/week
    Equipoise 400mg/week
    Nolvadex 20-30mg/day
    Vitamin B-6/200mg/day
    (i don't know if 7 weeks of EQ are going to give me joint pain, so i'd like someone's opinion on whether or not i should add some Deca and/or lower the Equipoise dosage in order to combat that, and if so, how much)

    weeks 10-12 Clomid therapy
    continue Nolva and B-6 till end of Clomid therapy

    btw i'm 5'10" 225 with about 15-16% bf and been lifting for over 4 years.
    I would run your cycle at least 12 weeks, why 30mg nolva?

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    the problem with a longer cycle is the PCT. i'm planning a shorter cycle so i wouldn't have to bring anything back to the US. or can i just carry the Nolva and Clomid with me when i come home or is that gonna cause problems in customs? if so, how hard do you think it would be to find a doc willing to prescribe it to me so i have a script to show customs?

    should i do this instead?
    wk.1-8~100mg test prop ed
    wk.1-8~50mg fina/tren ed
    wk.1-8~50mg masteron ed
    wk.1-6~40mg anavar ed
    10 mg nolva and 20 mg during clomid and start clomid at week 10?

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    btw, i know that wouldn't be waiting long enough before starting PCT, i just don't know about bringing the stuff back to the US so i'm not sure if i should go ahead and do it there or actually wait long enough and then start (having to get it past customs)

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    hey Guitar umm masteron is only useful at a very very low bf
    so id leave that out

    and fina i wouldnt do for a 1st cycle

    just use the test e/eq but extend it to 12 wks
    and use the var for 8 at 40

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    This is your first cycle. Just go with test e or test c @ 500mg/week for 12 weeks, 30 mg/ED dbol for first 4 weeks, l-dex and nolvadex .

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    Also you dont need the vit b-6...

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    so going ahead with my original cycle, but extend it to 12 weeks and add anavar at 40mg/day for wk 1-8, and get a script for my PCT so i don't have to worry about customs, i should be good?

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    i would do it for the total 12 weeks and get your pct when you are here its not hard to find

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    shouldn't i have some on hand though?

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    order it before you leave and keep it home so youll have it

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