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    footballplayer15 is offline New Member
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    is test en and clen a bad stack?

    i met up w\this dude in the gym and its something he suggested

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    hmm...it depends on what ur goals r. do u want to cut or bulk? if u wanna cut then id swith the test E for test prop. if u wanna bulk id take the clen outta there and add some deca . u basically have a bulker stacked with a cutter here. it all comes down to u makin up ur mind on wha tu wanna do.

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    footballplayer15 is offline New Member
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    im just tryin to get stronger and a lil cut

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    If you are planning on cutting and all you can get is test e then it really is fine. You will hold a little more water but that will come off. Test prop is a better choice, however, like i said test e is fine.

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    how should i cycle this

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    So you are trying to cut and gain strength but not necesarily gain muscle mass

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    ya im tryin to get strong im already pretty big im just tryin to get strong

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    If you cycle test prop, do 75mg ed
    If you cycle test enanthate , do 250mg e4d
    As far as clen , look up the clen handbook

    Your diet is what will mostly determine your bulker or cutter. Since you want to cut, you need to get a good cutting diet in order. The gear will help, but the diet is what is primary

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    thanks alot man....will the test en create a prob w\gyno

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    make sure you get yourself some nolvadex and take it 10mg ed. I also like to take .25mg ldex.

    Also make sure you have proper pct

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    don't start the cycle until you have everything u need especially clomid, nolva, L-dex.

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    If you just want to loose a big of weight then just eat clean and eat a little less carbs, do more cardio, etc. Not that you couldn't incorporate clen , its just that IMO you don't need it unless you are looking to cut a lot of weight. Save some $....

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanLegend
    If you just want to loose a big of weight then just eat clean and eat a little less carbs, do more cardio, etc. Not that you couldn't incorporate clen, its just that IMO you don't need it unless you are looking to cut a lot of weight. Save some $....
    Many people just would rather take clen than and eca.

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