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try 4-6 grams of tribulus per day for a while...always worked for me
That is too bad you didn't use hcg DURING the cycle and clomid and nolvadex and arimidex for pct. I myself if I were in your situation would start taking clomid and hope for the best. And if you can get it maybe a little hcg although no one recommends that for pct.Quote:
Originally Posted by defjux
Trib, aniva sativa, and clomid should do the trick.
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Pheedno and Einstein beg to differ. Read Pheedno's PCT in stickys and read what Einy has to say about Arimidex/Ldex during PCTQuote:
Originally Posted by animal-inside
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=Arimidex+pct
"Clomid also has a strong influence on the hypothalamohypophysial testicular axis. It stimulates the hypophysis to release more gonadotropin so that a faster and higher release of FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) and LH (luteinizing hormone) occurs. This results in an elevated endogenous (body's own) testosterone level" (steroid profiles on the homepage).Quote:
Originally Posted by defjux
So yes, stick with the clomid protocol until your boys come back. It shouldnt take more than 2 weeks. After you stop clomid keep with the trip for a few more weeks. That will get your balls in full gear.
Just dont take HCG and Clomid at the same time.
I used Adex during my last PCT and I definitely noticed that it slowed down my recovery. What works for some may not work for others.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeefCakeStew
Hey MBH, why would ldex slow down recovery during pct. I am curious since it is recommended by many during pct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla
I wish I had a reason why. I did PCT's with and without Adex...Adex always took me longer to recover. I'm going to try Pheed's PCT in a few week...I'll see again. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mark956101957
so when you say recover you mean your boys took longer to get back to size or you own natural test to come back?Quote:
Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla
...bit of both.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark956101957
I have heard other people say the same thing and since I have less than one month to start my pct I am very interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla
How long did you run the Nolva for PCT? It's know that it takes much longer to recover with Nolva alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by defjux
You can try tribulus...... this will help raise LH and FSH levels.... so this will help with atrophy and help if your HPTA is still not recovered...... You could also use HCG... this will definatly get them to grow....but you might want to go and get some blood work done and see where your test levels are. I wouldn't want to run clomid unless needed.
I run Clomid/Nolva/L-dex/Trib in PCT and I recover pretty quick....... but like MBH said not everyone will respond the same way so you have to see for yourself what works and what doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark956101957
Roughly, what were the major differences between the cycles (duration, chemicals, and amounts) . As you know, coming off Fina would definately shut you down harder than coming off of EQ. Just curious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla
I was waiting for this question...cycles were exactly the same! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BeefCakeStew
I just found this article on HCG...has a point on Adex. Food for thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark956101957
I like Arimidex during the cycle (in fact, consider use of an AI while taking aromatisables a necessity) but it ABSOLUTELY should not be used post cycle (even though it has been shown to increase LH production) because the risk of driving estrogen too low, and therefore further damaging an already compromised Lipid Profile, is too great (this also drives libido back into the ground—and we don’t want that, do we?).
http://www.intense-training.com/archive/t-9945.html
Nolva mimics estrogen and will also keep lipids in check........ were you using nolva also in PCT?Quote:
Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla
Yup. 10mg Ndex, .25Adex, and the 300/100/50 clomid combo that was so popular. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by TheMudMan
My apologies to Defjux...a bit of hijacking going here. Sorry bro.
It's a good topic though...we're all interested in it.
:cheers:
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Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla
You should up the nolvadex to 20mg durring PCT but still that shouldn't have made your recovery harder on you.
Wish I had an answer for everyone. I guess I'm just an odd guy. :cry: STOP MAKING FUN OF ME! I'M TELLING! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMudMan
:lol: Ok I'll stop.......... but I think I'm older than you...... I think you pretending to be a black guy screwed up your PCT :dg:Quote:
Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla
I'm just joking bro! I wish I knew why it does it to me. The man is keeping me down! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by TheMudMan
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Originally Posted by defjux
CLOMID!!!
I HAVE HAD THE BEST RESULTS WITH HCG INJECTIONS AND CLOMID, DEPENDIG ON THE HALF LIFE OF YOU STEROIDS YOU ARE CYCLEING OFF OF FOR EXAMPLE sUSTANON HAS ONE OF 3 WEEKS SO BEFORE ADMINERERISTING IT THAT'S HOW LONG YOU SHOULD WAIT TO GET MAXIMUM EFFECTS. looking for sustanon 250 CYCTAHOHS
Not exactly, if he is more then 6 months since his last cycle, then a 2 week cycle of HCG might not be too bad of an idea and might help. Although tribulus, tongkat ali, macca might also be interesting alternatives and these herbals dont tend to leave you with a shut down HTPA, if anything you stay functioning at a better level even after a 2 month therapy with the herbals.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark956101957