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    Maxima is offline Junior Member
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    Test/EQ/Win for cutting, where to put Deca, Cytomel?

    Stats: 5'10, 210; Age: 26
    Arms: 18.25 cold; Chest: 49 cold
    BF%: 12-15%
    Training - 7 years, have done 3 cycles that were at least 1 year apart, last cycle was one year ago.

    I am happy with my size and shape but overall I would like to be harder. My last cycle was based mainly on size. I have worked for one year and gotten back to and maintained the size I was averaging on the last cycle (didn't lose hardly anything thanks to the PCT advise I found here.) Now my main goal is to get hard, here is my plan and questions-

    Test 400mg weeks 1-10
    Equipoise 400mg weeks 1-10
    Winstrol Depot 50mg ED weeks 6-12
    Week 13 start PCT

    I have 10ml of 300mg Deca left over from the last cycle that I would like to go ahead and use, should I just run 300mg from weeks 1-10. I want to keep water retention low but I just love how Deca makes my joints feel as well as the strength and ability to maintain results. What are your thoughts?

    Also I have free access to Cytomel . This would be my first time using it so I was going to do the 20day cycle (credit: CYCLEON.) Where should I put this in the above stack if at all??

    Day 1 - 50mg
    Day 2 - 100mg
    Day 3 - 100mg
    Day 4 - 100mg
    Day 5 - 100mg
    Day 6 - 100mg
    Day 7 - 100mg
    Day 8 - 100mg
    Day 9 - 100mg
    Day 10 -75mg
    Day 11 - 75mg
    Day 12 - 50mg
    Day 13 - 50mg
    Day 14 - 50mg
    Day 15 - 25mg
    Day 16 - 25mg
    Day 17 - 25mg
    Day 18 - 12.5mg
    Day 19 - 12.5mg
    Day 20 - 12.5mg

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    fabry is offline Senior Member
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    1-12 Test 400mg
    1-11 equipoise 400mg
    9-14 Winstrol Depot 50mg ED
    Week 15 start PCT

    if u decide to run deca too, u can run it at 200mg per week, but u should rise the test dosage...

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    Steroids101 is offline Member
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    I would say with the winstrol , as you have the most AAS in your system then.

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    map200uk is offline Anabolic Member
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    id go with what fabry says, as you said you want to cut, dont use the deca as it will cause bloat unless u wanna run it to combat the joints prob with winny (then use a low dose)

    as for T3, use it near the end of the cycle

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    Maxima is offline Junior Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by map200uk
    id go with what fabry says
    Are two extra weeks of test and one week of EQ really going to make that much difference? I am getting QV EQ (200) so to run it as fabry suggests would mean I would have to buy 3 bottles instead of the 2 that I had planned. At the end of the cycle I would have 8ml of EQ that wouldn't be anything for another cycle and I would be stuck with gear that I couldn't use. I don't have a steady supplier, gear comes and goes as I do it at a maximum of once a year, hence the reason I have the Deca from the last cycle and really don't have a use for it now. Even if I went with another cycle of EQ next year in this same manner I would still have to buy more than I use (I would have 4 weeks of the bottle that was left over, then I would have to buy another bottle which would give me 5 weeks, and yet another bottle for the remaining 2 weeks and again I would be stuck with 6 ml of gear.)

    Thanks for the replies, I'll hit the cytomel on the last 20 days leading up to week 13.

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    MrDezel is offline Banned
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    I skimmed through this but what type of test are you using. I didn't think I saw a definite in there or is it T400 since it was at 400mg a week?

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    Maxima is offline Junior Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDezel
    I skimmed through this but what type of test are you using. I didn't think I saw a definite in there or is it T400 since it was at 400mg a week?
    Shooting for 100mg proprionate for low water retention. T400 is an option but I figured it would be a lot of water??

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