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    Hey Guys What would you choose?

    I posted this over at elite too
    What would be better for a 1st cycle?

    dianabol 30mg ED weeks 1-4
    test cyp/enathate(either) 400mg weeks 1-8
    test prop 75mg ED weeks 9-10
    ending on sunday week 11, clomid starting wed week 11 at 150mg , then thurs - wed 100mgs ED then thurs-wed 50mg ED

    OR.

    test prop 200mg EOD weeks 1-2
    test cyp or enathate 500mg weeks 1-8
    test prop 75mg ED weeks 9-10

    clomid as above?

    q. Would taking a short acting ester like propionate for only 1 week be effective until the long acting cypionate kicks in... or would 2 weeks be required?

    q.2 Is 500mgs too much for a beginner i know the new school of thought is 400-500mg per week ... not 200 like the old days

    for the last few months ive been set on the 1st cycle I outlined and am still most likely to go with , just want a opinon on which is better.

    (also liquidex on the side for gyno or water retention probs)

    thanks guys i like the quick responses on this site. its hard being addicted to 2 chat forums (this and anabolic review)

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    bump anyone?

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    i would run the first one. frontload the cycle with the dbols and use the prop at the end so you can start clomid quicker

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    Yeah, I agree with Dane!

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    Hey socio, I replied to this same thread and I agree with these boys...I've got a good reply for you on elite so I won't post it again..Listen to these guys...Those replies you got from those morons on elite were rediculous..

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    Thanks Guys , yeah i know i should proabably add some deca .....
    If i use deca untill week 8 , and then begin my prop in week 9...
    can i still use clomid week 11 , or would it be better to wait until week 12 and just use cyp/enanthat until week 10 and not finish with the prop?

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    I would Definantly go with the top cycle, big fan of dbol . Finish off with the prop I think you will like the second wind it gives you. I have seen Mike aka "god" recommend this cycle to people before as well and you would be a fool not to listen to god you know what I mean bro? Later

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