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    need some advice before next cycle

    Ok, I'm 5 weeks off my last cycle. This is what the cycle looked like, weeks 1-6, 75mg tren eod, weeks 1-8 100mg test prop eod, weeks 8-12 500mg test enathate/week along with 600 mg deca /week. Followed up with pct and started slin, up to 25-30 units a day which I'm currently still taking. I'm 210 lbs. at 8.5% bf. I'm planning on doing another cycle in late Sept. early Oct. This is what I currently have on hand, and I'd like some opinions on it, or maybe if I need to get more to obtain some reasonable gains in size. I have 200 thai d-bols, 2000mg of test cyp, 1500mg of deca left. Now, is this enough gear to get me some good results at 210lbs and at 8.5% currently, or should I get some more? I'm very prone to bad acne as well, but only from test. Can I cut the test down to like 200 mg a week and still see some results? Or do I need more test if I run the d-bol and deca at the same time? I'm just trying to stock up on enough gear and would like to do my homework before I go buying it. Another thing I thought of throwing in the mix was EQ. Does EQ cause acne like test? What can I do with the gear on hand, and what else should I get to make some real gains? Thanks guys

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    you need more test than deca , and eq does give you acne, run test at least 500 mgs ew, b 5 will help for acne, b 6 for deca gyno, nolva for test gyno, clomid

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    Well personally people that are prone to ACNE, your going to get it on juice. Somw drugs cause it more then others!! But im a firm believer in low doses Ive seen average guys blow up on low amounts of test such as 200 400 mg week. I Think you have plenty of juice to have some awesome results. Why take 500 when you get the same results on 2 300. JUST my opinion!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paingain
    Ok, I'm 5 weeks off my last cycle. This is what the cycle looked like, weeks 1-6, 75mg tren eod, weeks 1-8 100mg test prop eod, weeks 8-12 500mg test enathate/week along with 600 mg deca/week. Followed up with pct and started slin, up to 25-30 units a day which I'm currently still taking. I'm 210 lbs. at 8.5% bf. I'm planning on doing another cycle in late Sept. early Oct. This is what I currently have on hand, and I'd like some opinions on it, or maybe if I need to get more to obtain some reasonable gains in size. I have 200 thai d-bols, 2000mg of test cyp, 1500mg of deca left. Now, is this enough gear to get me some good results at 210lbs and at 8.5% currently, or should I get some more? I'm very prone to bad acne as well, but only from test. Can I cut the test down to like 200 mg a week and still see some results? Or do I need more test if I run the d-bol and deca at the same time? I'm just trying to stock up on enough gear and would like to do my homework before I go buying it. Another thing I thought of throwing in the mix was EQ. Does EQ cause acne like test? What can I do with the gear on hand, and what else should I get to make some real gains? Thanks guys
    Why did you start the Test E/deca at week 8? If you wanted to run the prop for 8 weeks you should have the test e at week 4 and the deca at week 1. Since you stopped the prop at week 8 and started the test e at week 8 there was atleast a 4 week gap there, that is about how long it takes test e to kickin. Also you only rau it for 4 weeks so when the test e was kicking in you stopped taking it ...Come back with a proposed next cycle and let us critque it.

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    dude, your totally right, I'm still kind of new to the game. What happened was I ran out of stuff sooner than I thought I was going to, and deca and test e was all that was available. If I could do it over I would have just ended the cycle with the test prop and fina, but oh well, just learn from my mistakes. My proposed cycle is a straight arrow pattern of 6 5mg d-bol tabs a day for 5 weeks, 100 mg test cyp week 1, 200mg week 2, 250mg week 3, 400mg week 4, 400mg week 5, 250mg week 6, 200mg week 7, 100mg week 8. I have about 2000 mg of deca left from the previous cycle. How would one of you more experienced guys dose the deca based on the gear I have available? Also, is nolvadex really neccessary for just 30mg of D-bol a day?

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    errr

    the test dosage seems odd 100mg -> 200 etc? why are you doing that
    keep it constant and run it for 10-12 wks

    deca , you will need about 400mg /wk
    unless you're only running it for joints

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paingain
    dude, your totally right, I'm still kind of new to the game. What happened was I ran out of stuff sooner than I thought I was going to, and deca and test e was all that was available. If I could do it over I would have just ended the cycle with the test prop and fina, but oh well, just learn from my mistakes. My proposed cycle is a straight arrow pattern of 6 5mg d-bol tabs a day for 5 weeks, 100 mg test cyp week 1, 200mg week 2, 250mg week 3, 400mg week 4, 400mg week 5, 250mg week 6, 200mg week 7, 100mg week 8. I have about 2000 mg of deca left from the previous cycle. How would one of you more experienced guys dose the deca based on the gear I have available? Also, is nolvadex really neccessary for just 30mg of D-bol a day?
    1st off i would not pyrimid my cypionate there is no reason too when u start raising and lowering doses in a cycle it makes your blood levels unstable which make u more vurnorable (haha spell chk?) to less gains/sides, i would wait until i had enough gear to run 400 mgs straight across, the d-bol looks fine but would just go 4 weeks but if u want to go five whatever thats just my .02

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    Thanks for all the help, I'll order up another bottle of cypionate and run 400mg a week for 10 weeks. Do you guys think nolvadex is really necessary for just 30mg d-bol a day for 4 or 5 weeks though???

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    Paingain, nolva is necessary because you're running TEST , and nolva is an anti-e, you may not need to use it during cycle (depends if you're prone to gyno)

    but you NEED nolva for pct

    and u need enough for incase you have to use it during cycle (if gyno shows)

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