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    Styles P is offline New Member
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    First Cycle Help...

    I'm about to start my first cycle pretty soon, looking for a pretty mild but effective cycle. Im 6'2 230lbs, about 12-14% bf. Im 21 years old and would like a test only cycle or maybe throw in some d-bol the first few weeks. Looking to get a little leaner and also a little bigger. Something like this...

    1-4 D-Bol @ 15/20mg ed
    1-8 Test E @ 250mg/week
    10-13 PCT (Clomid)

    Let me know what you guys think...

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    If I were you, I'd worry about BULKING but eat a clean 4500 or 5000 calories and you shouldnt put on too much fat at all. I'd bump the DBol to 35mg ED cuz of your weight and also do the Test for 12 weeks. Got nolva?

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    hey mate, test alone or test/dbol is a good choice for a first cycle, keep it simple

    extend the test to 10-12 wks, and the dbol dose needs to be changed

    25-50mg is an effective dose (go with 30-35mg ed)
    test e , id use 500mg/wk (but some have good gains on 250mg)

    and PCT should be clomid/nolva

    and make sure you have nolva on hand DURING cycle incase you get gyno signs

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    Quote Originally Posted by map200uk
    hey mate, test alone or test/dbol is a good choice for a first cycle, keep it simple

    extend the test to 10-12 wks, and the dbol dose needs to be changed

    25-50mg is an effective dose (go with 30-35mg ed)
    test e , id use 500mg/wk (but some have good gains on 250mg)

    and PCT should be clomid/nolva

    and make sure you have nolva on hand DURING cycle incase you get gyno signs
    i agree with map and the other guy it needs to look something like this

    1-4wk dbol 30-40mg ed
    1-12wk test e 500mg per week (shoot every mon and thurs. example)
    1-12wk nolva 10mg ed
    12-pct nolva 20mg ed
    *** if you can get ldex or adex get it cuz it will help with the water retention at .25mg ed.......... if you can get femera run it OR the ldex your choice

    pct= clomid and nolva

    peace bro

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    I agree with Hung-Solo, He fixed the same things I would have.
    Good luck with the Cycle..

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    Ok thanks for you guys information. This is what I revised. I cannot extend test cycle it needs to be 8 weeks. Also I want a "low" dose of test. Around 300mg/week.

    1-4 D-Bol @ 25/30Mg ED
    1-8 Test E. @ 300Mg E6D
    1-8 Nolva @ 5/10Mg ED
    Followed by PCT (Clomid)

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    welll test will kick in around week 5 so if you maybe tested and that is why you are only running it for 8 I would postpone the cycle, you'd get the best results running it as mentioned for 10-12 weeks

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    he is a beginner 20mg of dbol will do wonders for him i would use a low dose first time out see how ur body respondsu will get good gains with 20mg of dbol run the test at least 10 weeks up to 400mg (200mg 2x a week) not e6d

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    I dont think that 8 weeks of 300mg E6d is going to do anything for him.... JMO.

    I think it needs to be run at a higher dose and E4D

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    hmm the cycle *could* work, but 8 weeks isnt enough when u consider how long the test e takes to kick in

    save it until u can extend it to 12 weeks bro

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    I want a low dose of test. Test is only there 2 help keep the D-Bol gains. Novice cycle guide says around 300-500mg/week. I figure 300mg is plenty for me.

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    My first cycle I did a low dose of TEST and I had amazing results. I did however bump the doses (EQ as well) up around week 9 and ran the cycle 16 weeks. You will see good gains on a low dose, but make sure your diet/workout routine is SOLID. I do agree with everyone that 8 weeks insn't nearly enough. Just because you have gear, doesn't mean you should run it incorrectly. Get more test.

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    Ok, I have decided to run the test for ten weeks instaead of eight. Heres how it looks now. Also will the Nolva help a little with water retention?

    1-4 D-Bol @ 25/30Mg ED
    1-10 Test E. @ 250mg/week
    1-10 Nolva @ 5/10Mg ED
    Followed by PCT (Clomid)

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    300mg test e is very low

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    Quote Originally Posted by craneboy
    300mg test e is very low
    it is low but not for a beginner i think he will see good results on 300mg but take 150mg 2x a week imo

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