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    Thumbs up Next Cycle CRITIQUE

    Hey bros...... here is my work in progress for my next cycle. Its not going to be for about another 5 months, but I am getting the gear now as I am making a run for the boarder soon. I want to run another bulker so this is what I had in mind.

    Test Enan - 500mg week - weeks 1-12
    Deca - 400mg week - weeks 1-11
    Dbol - 40mg ED - weeks 1-4
    Winny - 75mg ED - weeks 8-13
    Fina - 75-100mg ED - weeks 7-15

    PCT

    Running the above along with the following:
    B6 - 200mg ED
    B12 - 1000mcg ED
    Nolva - 20mg ED
    L-Dex - .25mg ED
    Proviron - 50mg ED
    Milk thistle - 1000mg ED
    Liv-52

    Thanks bro and I appriciate all the help and suggestions.
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    thats a lot of stuff man!!! how many cycles have u done before?

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    thats alot of gear. And alot of orals.. i would get rid of the anadrol and winny, just stick to the dbol since you want it to be a bulking cycle. Also you definetly want to run the test a few weeks past the tren so that means run the test to week 16. also keep the deca levels lower then the test levels. The cycle needs some work....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Consistency
    thats alot of gear. And alot of orals.. i would get rid of the anadrol and winny, just stick to the dbol since you want it to be a bulking cycle. Also you definetly want to run the test a few weeks past the tren so that means run the test to week 16. also keep the deca levels lower then the test levels. The cycle needs some work....
    That was a typo bro, the test is definately higher then the deca . Was pondering about the idea of both drol and dbol , but dont think I am gonna run it

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    Yeah..... Okay. You're going to run 6 compounds and 13 weeks of orals on your second cycle.

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    How does THIS look now?

    Dbol - 40mg ED - weeks 1-5
    Test Enan - 500mg week - weeks 1-12
    Deca - 400mg week - weeks 1-11
    Winny - 75mg ED - weeks 10-14
    Fina - 75-100mg ED - weeks 7-15

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    Yeah..... Okay. You're going to run 6 compounds and 13 weeks of orals on your second cycle.
    No your right, not at all. I have like 10 different plans in front of me and I am confusing myself right now. check it out now

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    It's a very bad idea to run deca and tren at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    It's a very bad idea to run deca and tren at the same time.
    why? I have read that you have better results than say running with eq

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryin2getHUGE
    why? I have read that you have better results than say running with eq
    Do a search, don't forget to include prolactin in that search.

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    If you run EQ instead of deca and run the fina weeks 1-8 you should have an excellent cycle. I would thow out the dbol and just use the fina to jumpstart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    Do a search, don't forget to include prolactin in that search.
    Ok. I will look again. I will be back. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanLegend
    If you run EQ instead of deca and run the fina weeks 1-8 you should have an excellent cycle. I would thow out the dbol and just use the fina to jumpstart.
    I was going to run the eq originally but read that I would have better gains with the deca .

    This is from the profile section:
    For adding mass Testosterone enanthate combines very well with Anadrol 50, Dianabol , Deca-Durabolin , and Parabolan . As an example, a stack of 100 mg Anadrol 50/day, 200 mg Deca-Durabolin/ week, and 500 mg Testosterone enanthate /week works well. After six weeks of intake the Anadrol 50, for example, could be replaced by 40 mg Dianabol/day.

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    EQ is a good anabolic , those profiles are pretty outdated........Some of it is the whole running deca with tren thing, the prolactin would be high, plus those two drugs are SO supressive you would be a woman when you finish your cycle. Used in conjunction you'll end up looking like Martha Stuart post cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanLegend
    EQ is a good anabolic, those profiles are pretty outdated
    Not pretty outdated, dam'n near completely outdated.


    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanLegend
    Some of it is the whole running deca with tren thing, the prolactin would be high, plus those two drugs are SO supressive you would be a woman when you finish your cycle. Used in conjunction you'll end up looking like Martha Stuart post cycle.
    Deca + Tren =

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    I see........... I didnt know.... So if I DROP the deca and add EQ @ 400mg week that would be better. As well as drop the drol

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    Test/EQ/Tren would be *much* better IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryin2getHUGE
    How does THIS look now?

    Dbol - 40mg ED - weeks 1-5
    Test Enan - 500mg week - weeks 1-12
    Deca - 400mg week - weeks 1-11
    Winny - 75mg ED - weeks 10-14
    Fina - 75-100mg ED - weeks 7-15
    I disagree with those that say EQ is a good mass builder.well,if you consider running it for 14 weeks to pick up a few measly pounds as a mass builder..good for you.
    I'd change the cycle around a bit a drop the Fina.Not that I have a problem running both,because I don't.I know plenty of bros who ran both with no problems.On this board you get flamed from the thread parrots regurgitating things tho.
    Something like this.

    WK 1-4 Dbol 30 mgs ED
    WK 1-13 Test E 500 mgs
    WK 1-12 Deca 400 mgs
    Wk 10-15 winny 50m mgs ED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryin2getHUGE
    I see........... I didnt know.... So if I DROP the deca and add EQ @ 400mg week that would be better. As well as drop the drol
    keep the deca and drop forget about the EQ..you want mass right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    keep the deca and drop forget about the EQ..you want mass right?
    Yeah......... ALL MASS. And you think no fina huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryin2getHUGE
    Yeah......... ALL MASS. And you think no fina huh?
    You want mass? choose between fina and deca ....give the EQ to grandmom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
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    Something like this.

    WK 1-4 Dbol 30 mgs ED
    WK 1-13 Test E 500 mgs
    WK 1-12 Deca 400 mgs
    Wk 10-15 winny 50m mgs ED
    I like this myself because I seem to be a n eq nonrespnder deca I had great gains and no bloat. Being that it is your second cycle bro dont use tren with you deca someone more experienced might be able to get away with it, but run this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    You want mass? choose between fina and deca....give the EQ to grandmom.
    Ok sweet.......... I guess the deca is better fo rmass so I go with it. And you like the dbol or drol in this cycle at the beginning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    I disagree with those that say EQ is a good mass builder.well,if you consider running it for 14 weeks to pick up a few measly pounds as a mass builder..good for you.
    I'd change the cycle around a bit a drop the Fina.Not that I have a problem running both,because I don't.I know plenty of bros who ran both with no problems.On this board you get flamed from the thread parrots regurgitating things tho.
    Something like this.

    WK 1-4 Dbol 30 mgs ED
    WK 1-13 Test E 500 mgs
    WK 1-12 Deca 400 mgs
    Wk 10-15 winny 50m mgs ED

    that looks great to me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpt steele
    I like this myself because I seem to be a n eq nonrespnder deca I had great gains and no bloat. Being that it is your second cycle bro dont use tren with you deca someone more experienced might be able to get away with it, but run this
    Ok thanks bro.........

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    That looks good too DB. But I'm not just repeating what others are saying about Deca and Tren .

    I ran a test and low dose deca cycle with no problems.

    Next cycle I ran test and tren (normal dose), both my nipples started to lactate and I got gyno in my left pec. I immediately stopped the tren, and started on bromo. Still have the gyno though.

    I shudder to think what would have happened if I'd run them both together. Not to mention that the deca would have taken a lot longer to clear than the tren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    That looks good too DB. But I'm not just repeating what others are saying about Deca and Tren .

    I ran a test and low dose deca cycle with no problems.

    Next cycle I ran test and tren (normal dose), both my nipples started to lactate and I got gyno in my left pec. I immediately stopped the tren, and started on bromo. Still have the gyno though.

    I shudder to think what would have happened if I'd run them both together. Not to mention that the deca would have taken a lot longer to clear than the tren.
    were you running any anciliaries? I know you probably were but just curious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryin2getHUGE
    were you running any anciliaries? I know you probably were but just curious
    Oh yes.

    And I thank God I had bromo on hand. Sides from it were hell, but it worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    That looks good too DB. But I'm not just repeating what others are saying about Deca and Tren .

    I ran a test and low dose deca cycle with no problems.

    Next cycle I ran test and tren (normal dose), both my nipples started to lactate and I got gyno in my left pec. I immediately stopped the tren, and started on bromo. Still have the gyno though.

    I shudder to think what would have happened if I'd run them both together. Not to mention that the deca would have taken a lot longer to clear than the tren.
    I dont seem to be prone for prolactin problems, it seems as thought those that do seem to have a better respnse to eq. I was talking to another guy on another board and he is doing 600mg of eq and no dice, I went to 600-800 on my last cycle and had no change. I dont think your wrong to insist that someone not familliar of either compund pick 1, no sense in learning the hard way

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    That looks good too DB. But I'm not just repeating what others are saying about Deca and Tren .

    I ran a test and low dose deca cycle with no problems.

    Next cycle I ran test and tren (normal dose), both my nipples started to lactate and I got gyno in my left pec. I immediately stopped the tren, and started on bromo. Still have the gyno though.

    I shudder to think what would have happened if I'd run them both together. Not to mention that the deca would have taken a lot longer to clear than the tren.
    You know I wasn't referring to you bro.
    I also agree,it would be a long recovery.I'm not running them side by side in my cycle but one after another with a 7-8 week break in between.And I'll be on pct forever after this cycle bro.I might even see the rise of the anti christ before I'm done pct.

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    ok guys thanks for EVERYONE'S help and assistance. I thought I had a good cycle ready but guess not Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part about the prolactin and all. I researched but didnt know that the info was out of date. But you bro's helped me work it through so I am good to go now so thanks again.

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    Oh, here is my list of extras while on that cycle. See anything NOTTHERE that should be?

    B6
    B12
    L-Dex
    Nolva
    Milk Thistle
    Liv-52
    Proviron (Maybe)

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    You know I wasn't referring to you bro.
    Yeah I know. There are people who do tren only cycles with no PCT (tren they made themselves from pellets and only put through a coffee filter, no whatman), that supposedly have no problems. There will always be exceptions to every rule (on both sides). I just think that for his second cycle it's way too much. You should have seen his first draft before he edited it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    Yeah I know. There are people who do tren only cycles with no PCT (tren they made themselves from pellets and only put through a coffee filter, no whatman), that supposedly have no problems. There will always be exceptions to every rule (on both sides). I just think that for his second cycle it's way too much. You should have seen his first draft before he edited it.
    Easy Big Fella (J/K) I ALWAYS make "wacky" first dafts. Thats my MO. You bro's ALWAYS put me in line though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryin2getHUGE
    Oh, here is my list of extras while on that cycle. See anything NOTTHERE that should be?

    B6
    B12
    L-Dex
    Nolva
    Milk Thistle
    Liv-52
    Proviron (Maybe)

    Thanks
    After my experience I recommend that you have Bromocriptine or Dostinex on hand if you plan to run Deca or Tren . Just in case the B6 isn't enough. They both do the same thing (prolactin inhibitors). The Dostinex supposedly has less sides, but is much more expensive. You can get both from online pharmacies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryin2getHUGE
    Oh, here is my list of extras while on that cycle. See anything NOTTHERE that should be?

    B6
    B12
    L-Dex
    Nolva
    Milk Thistle
    Liv-52
    Proviron (Maybe)

    Thanks
    Either prov or l-dex,but not both.
    I like to use Glutamime powder also.I take up to 15-20 grams ED.
    Good multi vitamin as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    Either prov or l-dex,but not both.
    I like to use Glutamime powder also.I take up to 15-20 grams ED.
    Good multi vitamin as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by SV-1
    After my experience I recommend that you have Bromocriptine or Dostinex on hand if you plan to run Deca or Tren. Just in case the B6 isn't enough. They both do the same thing (prolactin inhibitors). The Dostinex supposedly has less sides, but is much more expensive. You can get both from online pharmacies.
    Thanks guys. I will drop the prov, and pick up some bromo and glutamine. Now we are talking turkey (I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryin2getHUGE
    Thanks guys. I will drop the prov, and pick up some bromo and glutamine. Now we are talking turkey (I think

    mmm, i love some good turkey great thread peeps. some of the better reading for the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    You want mass? choose between fina and deca....give the EQ to grandmom.
    screw grandma, I'll take it!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by buylongterm
    screw grandma, I'll take it!!!!
    No way I'm not screwing Grandma, besides Uncle Billy ate her out earlier on the couch....

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