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    Why cant TEST be 17aa'd and taken orally

    All oral cycles are discouraged because you need something to replace natty test

    but

    why can TEST suspension be bound to 17aa and made into an oral ?

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    thats a good question. bump for einstein or some other genious

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    There is one I posted about earlier -

    ANDRIOL (Testosterone undecanoate)

    Oral anabolic steroid . 40mg capsules/bottle

    Other names: Androxon, Undestor and Restinsol.

    Seen as small, oval shaped, red capsules.

    Promotes rapid strength and weight gains like other testosterones. It also promotes storage of glycogen and ATP (Adenosine Triphosphate), the fuel used by muscles to move. Though Andriols effects are similair to other testosterones it is slightly safer to take. Andriol is one of the few oral steroids not C-17 alpha alkylated and therefore causes minimal damage to the liver but for the same reason remains active in the body for a lot shorter duration of time. This means that the drug needs to be taken regularly.

    Aromatisation minimal.

    Common Dose: 200mg per day in divided doses.

    OK so it's not bound to 17aa, but it is an oral testosterone.

    PS - here's the link to the AR profile of it -

    http://www.steroid.com/52.php
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    There is a 17AA test. It is called Methyltestosterone .

    http://www.steroid.com/71.php

    BTW long time no see. Good to see ya.

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    from what i recall all oral test are very inefficient( meaning u have to take a ton to get enough active test in your blood)

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    Quote Originally Posted by w_rballs
    from what i recall all oral test are very inefficient( meaning u have to take a ton to get enough active test in your blood)
    Agreed..... it has it's place for hormonal problems but not for what we want from it.

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    Andriol isnt 17aa, the 17aa test is Methyltesosterone.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    There is a 17AA test. It is called Methyltestosterone .

    http://www.steroid.com/71.php

    BTW long time no see. Good to see ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    Andriol isnt 17aa, the 17aa test is Methyltesosterone.
    Very true, was waiting for somebody to say that!

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    what about the test patches i here if you put on like 60 patches ed u see gains
    the only drawback is ur covered in patches

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    who gives a ****... grab your balls and inject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceinthehood
    what about the test patches i here if you put on like 60 patches ed u see gains
    the only drawback is ur covered in patches
    Well I am in the process of coming up with a Sublingual Test. Its absorbtion rate will be remarkably higher than the patch. It is in the blueprint stages at this point. I am doing it for the needle phobic and just to see if it can be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    Well I am in the process of coming up with a Sublingual Test. Its absorbtion rate will be remarkably higher than the patch. It is in the blueprint stages at this point. I am doing it for the needle phobic and just to see if it can be done.
    Actuallt a sublingual Test, Deca , and EQ.

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    Actually Methyltest is dirtcheap but nobody likes it since it has a host of side-effects due to converting in stronger androgens and estrogens (methyl-estradiol and methyl-DHT)...

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    i like the shots never had a prob with that

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    IP used to make oral test. However anyone not willing to shoot is not ready for gear IMO. I have been stickin myself ed for 14 weeks. Twice a day the first 4. I am a freakin human pin cushion and its gettin old to me. However I have the dedication to keep it up and if you can't do that you don't need to be on steroids IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by w_rballs
    from what i recall all oral test are very inefficient( meaning u have to take a ton to get enough active test in your blood)
    read the link to AR profile of Andriol , it states it has an inclusion in it's make-up which makes it through the intestinal tract, and it's not 17aa. Methyltestosterone is also mentioned on this link. And I already said it's not a 17aa.

    Read the info, follow the links and you won't have to ask so many questions or make posts that are not needed.

    Does that sound bitchy, sorry if it does, new supps are kicking in, and as it goes I'm feeling a little edgy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quake
    read the link to AR profile of Andriol , it states it has an inclusion in it's make-up which makes it through the intestinal tract, and it's not 17aa. Methyltestosterone is also mentioned on this link. And I already said it's not a 17aa.

    Read the info, follow the links and you won't have to ask so many questions or make posts that are not needed.

    Does that sound bitchy, sorry if it does, new supps are kicking in, and as it goes I'm feeling a little edgy.

    u mean where it says this? "The disadvantage of Andriol is that it only becomes effective if taken in high doses. Even if a dose of 200 mg of Andriol/day is taken, the testosterone level in the blood is still too low for a bodybuilder to gain strength and muscle growth. The capsules, therefore, are effective for only a few hours so that 6-7 capsules, that is 240-280 mg (mini-mum), must be taken daily to achieve good results comparable to those of injectable compounds."

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    Quote Originally Posted by w_rballs
    u mean where it says this? "The disadvantage of Andriol is that it only becomes effective if taken in high doses. Even if a dose of 200 mg of Andriol/day is taken, the testosterone level in the blood is still too low for a bodybuilder to gain strength and muscle growth. The capsules, therefore, are effective for only a few hours so that 6-7 capsules, that is 240-280 mg (mini-mum), must be taken daily to achieve good results comparable to those of injectable compounds."
    HE IS NOT TALKING ABOUT ANDRIOL!!!!!!!!!
    HE IS TALKING ABOUT METHYLTESTOSTERONE!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by lozgod
    Andriol isnt 17aa, the 17aa test is Methyltesosterone.


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    There is a 17AA test. It is called Methyltestosterone .

    http://www.steroid.com/71.php

    BTW long time no see. Good to see ya.

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    orals are dirty...inject that ****

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