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    How Long Until PCT on this cycle

    Hey bros

    Does the regular "21 days after last shot" rule apply to this cycle?

    Test Enan - 500 mg
    EQ - 400 mg
    Tren Enan - 400 mg

    Thanks!!

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    yes. good luck with PCT on this one as it will be pretty tough since you are going to experience a huge strength crash without tapering up with some prop.

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    Daem - I am not sure what you meant by a huge strength crash... Can you clarify?

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    You only have to wait till 2 weeks after your last shot with enanthate esters. Are you running your test longer than the EQ though? You should be.

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    so it is only 14 days instead of 21? Right now I am running all the same (13 weeks.) I just started though, so I can change things around

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    the strength crash will come from stopping the tren , and then your test levels will be falling until PCT begins.

    you will most likely feel weak (comparitively speaking) about 7-10 days after your last shots.

    this is where high calories and hard training are crucial so you don't lose your mass along with the strength.

    it is inevitable in a cycle like this and you'll just have to make the best out of it.

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    here, from another post, finally found it

    Anadrol /Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
    Deca : 21 days after last injection
    Dianabol : 24 hours after last administration
    Equipoise : 21 days after last injection
    Fina: 3 days after last injection
    Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
    Sustanon : 18 days after last injection
    Testosterone Cypionate : 18 days after last injection
    Testosterone Enanthate : 14 days after last injection
    Testosterone Propionate : 3 days after last injection
    Testosterone Suspension : 24 hours after last administration
    Winstrol : 24 hours after last administration

    So I guess it is 21 days since that's how long EQ takes and I will stop EQ one week before the test to make up for the diff

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    I am taking tren enan, I thought that for being a longer ester the strength crash wouldn't be as bad... Am I wrong?

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    id run some prop at the end of that cycle right up till 1 day before pct. so you dont have the 21 days with lower test levels, just run prop 20 days, then wait 1 day and youll start your pct. youll have less of a crash like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcstomper
    id run some prop at the end of that cycle right up till 1 day before pct. so you dont have the 21 days with lower test levels, just run prop 20 days, then wait 1 day and youll start your pct. youll have less of a crash like that
    You will need to wait 3 days after last prop inject...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik
    You will need to wait 3 days after last prop inject...
    hmmmm im not doubting you but i always read to wait 1-3 days after prop. sometimes i hear its 48 hours, then sometimes i hear 3 days so untill i get exacts about the half life of prop i think ill keep having 1 day between prop and pct. meaning if my last shot of prop is monday, ill start pct on wednesday

    i messed up above, youd actually start pct on day 22

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcstomper
    hmmmm im not doubting you but i always read to wait 1-3 days after prop. sometimes i hear its 48 hours, then sometimes i hear 3 days so untill i get exacts about the half life of prop i think ill keep having 1 day between prop and pct. meaning if my last shot of prop is monday, ill start pct on wednesday

    i messed up above, youd actually start pct on day 22
    Take a look at this it will help, it is here I get my info on PCT start times: PCT start times

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik
    Take a look at this it will help, it is here I get my info on PCT start times: PCT start times
    dope, thanks for the link. ill use it in the future. the only thing i wonder is why i always read all differant times for all of the steroids

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcstomper
    dope, thanks for the link. ill use it in the future. the only thing i wonder is why i always read all differant times for all of the steroids
    Simply because like your post earlier some people aren't 100% sure but still advise others. Prop has a 3 day half life.

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