Help With Steroid Alternatives, which is best?

**SirSwig** · 07-19-2004, 04:08 PM

I've been looking at these so-called legal steroid alternatives on this site. Has anyone out there used any of them? If so, which is best out of these ones?

Derma-Gain, Equi-bolon, Gen-Edge, Maxteron, and Subtropin hGH

Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. Oh and BTW I am just starting out so which would be best for a novice, Legal stuff that is.

**hercules88** · 07-19-2004, 04:11 PM

get the real stuff, thats all crap. youl get a better answer in the supp forum.

**thejuiceisloose** · 07-19-2004, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by hercules88

get the real stuff, thats all crap. youl get a better answer in the supp forum.

All that is non-sense. Using Glutamine, creatine, clean diet, and good workouts will get better results than using that crap.

**SirSwig** · 07-19-2004, 04:19 PM

I dont have the balls to get the real stuff. I dont want the government on my back. You only live once dude.

**Lozgod** · 07-19-2004, 04:21 PM

1-test, M1Test, thats about the only ones I would endorse. High enough dose and they all work I guess.

**SirSwig** · 07-19-2004, 04:24 PM

Thanx Lod, anyone else out there used these?

**Lozgod** · 07-19-2004, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by SirSwig

Lod

L-O-Z

**Bob Balco** · 07-19-2004, 04:29 PM

Hey dude I havent taken juice in about 6 years. I have tried all of the andro and pro hormones and think they are terrible. I got worse acne than when i was on a serious cycle. I have been taking Acetabolin III abd like the results. Vit B6,Magnesium, zinc, Acetyl-L-Carinine, and N-Acetyl Cysteiene (NAC). Thats whats in Acetabolin III. I can really feel my natural test rising and it really helpd my recovery time and pumps.

**SirSwig** · 07-19-2004, 04:29 PM

Sorry Heh, typed too fast.
Do you know anything about the ones I mentioned at top though? ever heard of anyone using them?

**Lozgod** · 07-19-2004, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Bob Balco

Hey dude I havent taken juice in about 6 years. I have tried all of the andro and pro hormones and think they are terrible. I got worse acne than when i was on a serious cycle.

Exactly

**SirSwig** · 07-19-2004, 04:48 PM

Thanx Bob

**doctorb** · 07-19-2004, 05:22 PM

I used the S1-Test transdemal and I got 15lbs and kept 10lbs with heavy training. I did PCT with 6oxo. But the real thing is the best.Too much trouble in terms of spraying.

**SirSwig** · 07-19-2004, 05:23 PM

Bump

**RussianVodka** · 07-19-2004, 05:25 PM

Save your money for real stuff.

***Narkissos*** · 07-19-2004, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by RussianVodka

Save your money for real stuff.

agreed

I used M-1-t at 60mgs a day... no decents gains to mention... This was after a year and 1/2 without any type of gear.. so my receptors were squeaky clean

Save your money for gear... or stay natural.. don't toss out cash on nonsense supps

**John88Test** · 07-19-2004, 09:32 PM

I have tried dermagain, maxteron and equibolan CRAP a couple of years ago....a waste of time and a waste of money...either use creatine and lift, use as, go natural, but dont use that precursor crap....peace

**Bigkatz** · 07-19-2004, 09:37 PM

hey swig you said it. you only live once so dont waiste your time with that ****e. do your home work. the real stuff is not that risky, not that hard to get, and you will not be upset about the results after you workout and smend the money, like you will be when you take that other stuff you were talking about.

**LeanMeOut** · 07-19-2004, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

agreed

I used M-1-t at 60mgs a day... no decents gains to mention... This was after a year and 1/2 without any type of gear.. so my receptors were squeaky clean

Save your money for gear... or stay natural.. don't toss out cash on nonsense supps

You took 60mg ED of M1T? That is insane...... even people who are experienced gear users don't need more than 20mg ED at most. It is pretty liver toxic too. How big are you???

<<LMO>>

**Dude-Man** · 07-19-2004, 11:33 PM

I hear the pure premium labs prohormones are great.

**MMC78** · 07-19-2004, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by chrisAdams

I hear the pure premium labs prohormones are great.

**Juicemonkey101** · 07-20-2004, 02:26 AM

Only PH's i would mess with are Methylated ones. Still even then, most don't do ****. Only Pro Hormones i have used with any type of remote success are M-1-T (which i actually really like, almost as much as other oral AS) 20-40mg ED is a great dose. 20 being suffcient in my mind. The other one is Legal Gears Masterdrol V2 or Methyl 5AA. Had to use triple the recmomend dose, but it worked, not amazing, but gave solid gains and gave me a little more vascularity. Used it at 80mg Pre Work out.

**ducati996** · 07-20-2004, 07:31 AM

I have tried m1t and liked it. Its as close to legal d-bol as it gets. Try running 20mg ed and see how you like it. I was worried at first but you ONLY LIVE ONCE and it you want to get big you have to go for it.