Thread: Stopping knee pain with GH
07-20-2004, 05:46 PM #1
Stopping knee pain with GH
Saw my "Hormone Replacement" doc the other day and he said that he has been experimenting with himself and some patients that have knee pain. He is treating by injecting GH directly into the knee joint. He claims to be having amazing results in the relief of pain and he thinks it might be helping to heal minor damage. He says that the knee joint is kind of encapsulated and the GH stays is the joint for some time before getting absorbed by the body. Thought this might be worth a try for those with knee pain, which eventually will probably be all of us. LOL
07-20-2004, 05:52 PM #2
i can see how it helps, GH does after all help to repair muscle i thought?
but im weary of GH due to the fact that long term sides are unknown
07-20-2004, 05:59 PM #3Originally Posted by map200uk
07-20-2004, 06:00 PM #4
yea, i understand what you mean, and at small doses it could be ok, but im not sure what dose would be considered unsafe, just i read that the long term effects of synthetically produced GH hadnt been fully discovered yet.
07-20-2004, 08:55 PM #5Originally Posted by Da Bull
I believe it was Sir William Osler who said that we should use every new drug while it is still effective.
07-20-2004, 09:09 PM #6
to back up sinista. just because they prescribe it now doesn't mean they will in the future. my uncle was prescibed anadrol 50 in 1982 when he was a senior in highschool for the sole reason that he wanted to get big to play college football. he got it from his normal doctor.
07-20-2004, 09:50 PM #7Originally Posted by sinista63
Can't debate you on womens HRT,because I know nothing about it.
Don't quite get the contradicting remark you made in reference to William osler.
07-20-2004, 11:50 PM #8
If I am not mistaken I believe that the GH being made today is genetically equivalent to the GH that we produce. I think it is grown from mammalian DNA so it is nothing like the synthetic GH that was messing people up several years back. I think that scientists would consider it the safest anabolic that we can take, but I don’t really know so I could be way off here. As far as the A-50 mentioned, I would guess with the high sides that it produces that it is several chains away from anything occurring naturally in our bodies. Well, I "think" a lot of Sh*t but I don’t "know" anything for sure so somebody please help me out here. By the way the doc says he is injecting about 10 to 15 IU into the knee.
07-20-2004, 11:52 PM #9
Interesting....they gave everyone D-bol back in the 70s in my high school.
Originally Posted by Casanova33
07-21-2004, 12:36 AM #10Originally Posted by Da Bull
i kinda thought that the quote from Osler would look contradictory. it is simply a statement concerning the nature of medicine. we use a lot of medicines and therapies that may not necessarily be effective or better than older versions we already have. with time these deficiencies are unearthed. it is not necessarily that the new drug lost its efficacy... it never really had it in the first place. you could say it was more of a joke on the part of Osler.
07-21-2004, 02:13 AM #11
Well it might help. I had 3 knee ops one with a Acl recon. I'll tell you one thing... dont try it yourself. I had so many needles in my knee and every time it hurt like helll, and that was a othropedic surgeon sticking it in, I'd never try this one at home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
07-21-2004, 02:04 PM #12
Stopping knee pain with GH
[QUOTE=sinista63]you definitely have a point. i have not seen anyone drop dead from testosterone or HGH. i just wonder if we'll see any long-term negative effects once HRT in men becomes more common place.QUOTE]
The big difference today is bloodwork. My mother went on HRT in the 70's and her gynocologist prescribed estrogen without blood work. Sides happen and the doc tells her to back off a bit. I am on HRT at 41 and I had to adjust my Cypionate dose by extending frenquency from 7 to 10 days because my levels were 1100 vrs. 1000. I take T-Cyp, GH, Arimidex , and T-3 via a measured and re-measured script. Had my mom's doc tested here he might have found that progesterone was the issue. Don't compare historical synthetic HRT that are mothers did with Bio identical HRT today. There is no comparison.
BTW I realize that Cyp is synthetic. Prop is bio-identical but I am not willing to be a pin cushion and the gels won't get me to the top of my range.
HRT rocks 6'1" 218 at 8% maintainable!
07-21-2004, 05:19 PM #13Anabolic Member
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yea my left knee is shot. After 5 yrs of Tae Kwon Do I had to have the minicus(cartiledge) removed. Now as time goes on its popping. Theres a reason my legs are not up to par as I cannot do squats heavy. I only do partials at 400lbs with knee wraps. It helps my strength but not mass.. Then I drop down to 135lbs for 10 deep seated reps only. If $ was not a issue I would inject into knee too..
07-21-2004, 05:24 PM #14Associate Member
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dOES ANYONE KNOW IF THIS WOULD HELP REPAIR THE TENDONS IN MY SHOULDER ??IF I SPOT INJECTED IT THERE
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07-21-2004, 05:40 PM #15Registered User
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no. dont try anything stupid lol. go talk to ur doc.
07-21-2004, 08:42 PM #16Originally Posted by bluethunder
07-21-2004, 08:48 PM #17Originally Posted by RussianVodka
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