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    My Friend Is Desperate PLEASE HELP

    my friend is a hemopheliac (this is a disease i dont truly understand it but when some1 bleeds they have a trouble stopping) he says whenever he gets shots at the doctors they give him special treatment to stop the bleeding he really wants to take steroids tho but doesnt know what he should do

    can he do just dbols i mean i know ur not suppose to do oral only cycles i never have and never will but hes in a different situation please help

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    Is this a bad joke...?

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    I think he should consult with his doctor imo

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    is this a bad joke?

    um no r u joking around - theres alot of hemopheliacs in the world r u kiddin me he really wants to know if he should use a needle because if hits a blood vessel just a little bit he could bleed for awhile



    please take this thread serious or just dont reply

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProUser910
    um no r u joking around - theres alot of hemopheliacs in the world r u kiddin me he really wants to know if he should use a needle because if hits a blood vessel just a little bit he could bleed for awhile



    please take this thread serious or just dont reply
    Very tough question, Since I don't know about his condition. but I would say he shouldn't. Sooner or later he will hit one either going in or coming out. It happens to everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buylongterm
    Very tough question, Since I don't know about his condition. but I would say he shouldn't. Sooner or later he will hit one either going in or coming out. It happens to everyone.
    I totally agree here... Its honestly not worth putting your life on the line for... God forbid if he ever forgot to aspirate and injected into a vein... hmmm

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    Doing some research... will get back to you if i find anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos
    Doing some research... will get back to you if i find anything

    Thanks, i am also interested for my own knowledge.

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    he would always aspirate ..... but still every nicks veins here and there and in his case he might bleed and have trouble stopping

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    by the way thanks for all the help

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProUser910
    um no r u joking around - theres alot of hemopheliacs in the world r u kiddin me he really wants to know if he should use a needle because if hits a blood vessel just a little bit he could bleed for awhile



    please take this thread serious or just dont reply
    My point was not if you were serious about the question but serious about the realization of the possible side effects of your friend sticking himself with a sharp object where he lacks the ability to produce blot clots on his own. I suspect he could inject on a weekly basis just prior to his doctors visit but why take that chance.

    BTW, my friend growing up was a hemopheliac and died about 10 years ago as a result of an HIV infected transfusion after a severe blood loss.

    The short answer is no, he should not use and injectable steroid .

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    ooo alright sorry about your friend and i just didnt think any1 would take it serious because when he told me about his condition i thought he was jokin - i never heard of it to be honest - but anyways my friend is desperate - he has gone through a real tough life dealin with being undersized - when we were in high school people called him skel(skelaton) or strings just making fun of him to the point he tried commititing suicide but was always scared of what would happen using needles with his condition but he is really set on gettin big

    even if its not that safe is there any oral cycle that is decent enuff for him to use

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    Here is a good thread for an anavar only cycle. Its a good read, hope it helps.

    http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...d.php?t=112543

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    thanx bipolar that was extremely helpful - he wants to gain size would it be a good idea to stack anavar wit dbol

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    actually how about an anavar /andriol stack for him i read that might work

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    Nooooooo

    Never stack orals, Dbol alone will put a hurting on your liver. Eventhough Var is mild on the HPTA it is stil 17aa and wreaks havoc on the old liver. Just do the Var and take proper precautions.

    Quote Originally Posted by ProUser910
    thanx bipolar that was extremely helpful - he wants to gain size would it be a good idea to stack anavar wit dbol

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    Andriol is not 17aa, its not anadrol . it's absorbed through the lymphatic system... and frankly it sucks. It's not a substitute for injectable test.

    My advice is have him go to an HRT clinic and have this done legally under medical supervision. I can't advise him on anything about using as I dont know enough about the disease. All i can remember is watching the ryan white movie as a kid and praying it never happened to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    Andriol is not 17aa, its not anadrol . it's absorbed through the lymphatic system... and frankly it sucks. It's not a substitute for injectable test.

    My advice is have him go to an HRT clinic and have this done legally under medical supervision. I can't advise him on anything about using as I dont know enough about the disease. All i can remember is watching the ryan white movie as a kid and praying it never happened to me.
    I agree this isn't a question for us to answer here. He needs to consult a doctor and be under medical supervision.

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    Not recomending anything to a hemo

    Just a general rule to follow. I'm not to familiar with andriol so that one is beyond my knowledge, but Dbol and Var is a nono in my book to anyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by odrorir
    Never stack orals, Dbol alone will put a hurting on your liver. Eventhough Var is mild on the HPTA it is stil 17aa and wreaks havoc on the old liver. Just do the Var and take proper precautions.

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    Dbol would be bad, from other peoples exerience Dbol does caus a few nosebleeds and makes clotting even harder, so he needs to stay away from Dbol in my opinion. He can do injectibles if he injects in big muscles away from the thighs, can someone give the website that shows the injection locations again? that website shows some real pics to avoid getting near a vein.

    I think he needs to jus train hard and take protein supplements or creatine, he doesnt need steroids to get a good body. But if he insists on taking them and there is nothing we can do to stop him then i would rather he did a safe cycle than a dangerous one.

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    Look, I'm not a doctor but let's not kid ourselves...hemophilia is an extremely serious disease which is not just about needles but the whole chemistry of the blood (I don't pretend to be an expert here). If the guy said he had a brain tumor and could he take steroids , I don't think we'd be giving medical advice. This is crazy. Get your friend to a doctor if he's wasting away or to a shrink if he just thinks he is.

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    Ever hear of transdermals? I would look into them.

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    I've had light bruising in my shoulders from lifting heavy before. I'm sure I popped a small blood vessel. Are you sure that your friend should even be lifting heavy weights?

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    I would talk to your buddy ...its not worth putting his life at risk that much by using injectables..if he insists, go to a doctor and see what he has to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeB
    I've had light bruising in my shoulders from lifting heavy before. I'm sure I popped a small blood vessel. Are you sure that your friend should even be lifting heavy weights?
    An interesting point, i was thinking the same thing. I get red lines where i have burst blood vessels from doing squats, calve raises etc. Were i a hemophiliac i dunno what if any problems that may cause.

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    I think it's probably not a very good idea.. studies show that it becomes harder to form clots while you have elevated androgen levels.. as a result his condition could become even worse with steroid use .

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