Cycle with no test?

**Essy** · 07-22-2004, 07:33 AM

Is there any cycle that you can take with not test. If yes what is it. I have slight case of gyno just started Fina/winny/prop cycle but am to paranoid.

**hung-solo** · 07-22-2004, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by Essy

Is there any cycle that you can take with not test. If yes what is it. I have slight case of gyno just started Fina/winny/prop cycle but am to paranoid.

then dont to a.s. if you are too paranoid..

**somedude247** · 07-22-2004, 07:46 AM

You need test bro...its been well documented on this board..just get your anti-e's in check and their will not be a problem.

**map200uk** · 07-22-2004, 08:10 AM

he could do it without test...but its not the best way, and recovery would be hard

***SV-1*** · 07-22-2004, 08:17 AM

Test isn't the only thing that can cause gyno.

**Essy** · 07-22-2004, 10:47 AM

Thanks for the help and info.

Originally Posted by hung-solo

then dont to a.s. if you are too paranoid..

**Essy** · 07-22-2004, 10:49 AM

I am taking Fina/winny/prop arimadex and nolva. But my nipple still feel weird. I dont want to take a chance of my gyno getting worse. I know the Fina and Winny will shut me down but would like to keep taking them is there anything I can do. I am taking prop 100mg ed should I lower the dose or take every other day? What is the minimal amout of test I can use for it to be effective? Would that help?

**EastCoaster** · 07-22-2004, 10:52 AM

A cycle with no test is like having sex without a partner... it might feel good for the moment, but in the end you're only screwing yourself.

**MS421** · 07-22-2004, 10:54 AM

LOL good one Eastcoaster

**scotttiger54** · 07-22-2004, 10:58 AM

a cycle with no test is a cycle that doesn't need to be ran....

**scotttiger54** · 07-22-2004, 10:59 AM

and at a minimum i would run prop no less than 75mg eod.

**RussianVodka** · 07-22-2004, 11:02 AM

No test, no cycle. Test isn't the only one steroid that can cause gyno problem, even deca could give you a boobs

**Essy** · 07-22-2004, 01:29 PM

If I have been running my cycle since sunday would my nipple be itchy already? It is only 4 days or do you think i am just beeing paranoid.

**scotttiger54** · 07-22-2004, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Essy

If I have been running my cycle since sunday would my nipple be itchy already? It is only 4 days or do you think i am just beeing paranoid.

your paranoid

**Essy** · 07-22-2004, 01:47 PM

LOL, thats what my friend who is also my source just told me.

Originally Posted by scotttiger54

your paranoid

**Essy** · 07-22-2004, 07:23 PM

Would it be bad to run my cycle like this:
Fina 75 ed
Prop 100 mg eod
winny 50mg ed starting week 3

**gixxer600** · 07-22-2004, 08:23 PM

If this is your first cycle, stay away from the fina and winny. Just go with the d-bol, test e combo. Great for first timers!! Keep the gear you have for the future. If not, 20mg nolva throughout your run.

**twosocks40** · 07-22-2004, 08:39 PM

I know most will disagree but screw it. Do EQ and winny. Works for me. Doesn't mean it will work for you though. You take a risk either way. Get shut down or get boobs. Hmmmm?

-B

**Essy** · 07-23-2004, 09:25 AM

This is not my first cycle. That is why I am being paranoid, I have gyno from past cycle. My nipples usually have some feeling in them and can not tell if it is from the cycle I started 5 days ago.

**BUYLONGTERM** · 07-23-2004, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Essy

This is not my first cycle. That is why I am being paranoid, I have gyno from past cycle. My nipples usually have some feeling in them and can not tell if it is from the cycle I started 5 days ago.

Are you taking Nolvadex ? Also, I'd definitely run the PROP ED!!!!

**scotttiger54** · 07-23-2004, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by buylongterm

Are you taking Nolvadex? Also, I'd definitely run the PROP ED!!!!

i agree, you can get away with prop eod but seeing that your wanting to run the fina ed then why not run the prop ed also? either way you look at you'd still be doing ed injections