lower back or kidney problems??

**AustrianOAK14** · 07-22-2004, 12:35 PM

hey bros im taking sum time off steroids my lower back is killing me this 2nd cycle it was planned for 15 weeks but im in week 8 and im gonna quit my health is more important to me than building muscle besides i think my gear was bunk im never trying mexican vet gear again i was on test cyp,deca 300, dbol by denkall, its been a weird cycle so im gonna quit i have 20 tabs of nolvadex 20mg i need to go to mex to get sum more for pct. anyway i havent been able to sleep lately my lower back is killing me i have a belly that looks like im preg and my face is breaking out so i think ill just stop lay off maybe hit my 3rd cycle in 2005. anything out there for kidney detox??? besides water and where can i purchase liv 52 or milk thistle??

thanks bros

**Da Bull** · 07-22-2004, 12:41 PM

cranberry extract for kidneys....

**bluethunder** · 07-22-2004, 12:43 PM

sorry to hear. Did you stop the d-bol? It gives back pumps. Liv 52 is everywhere do a search..But if you are having that many problems cut your losses and choose you gear wisely next time, sticking with mild ones. my 2cents

**AustrianOAK14** · 07-22-2004, 12:48 PM

cool ill check out cranberry extract for sure thanks guys

**gixxer** · 07-22-2004, 01:06 PM

Dbol gives a bad low back pain for me.

**animal-inside** · 07-22-2004, 01:48 PM

you will piss blood before your kidneys hurt

**scotttiger54** · 07-22-2004, 01:53 PM

personally, i don't care for mexican vet grade gear either. i'll happily stick with my ugl's or reputable pharmacutical companies

**cyflex** · 07-22-2004, 02:38 PM

i have a same problem bro. pain at lower bank (kidneys areal) my blood pressure was 2 high (test-deca -dbols)
i took catapresan 150mcg(clonidine hydrochloride) 2tabs before bed and un other 1tab 1st think in the mornig.. i felt better.
check out ur blood pressure?

**stitch1967** · 07-22-2004, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by animal-inside

you will piss blood before your kidneys hurt

You sure about that? I've had my kidneys hurt from a hard night's drinking and never pissed blood.

**Lozgod** · 07-22-2004, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by animal-inside

you will piss blood before your kidneys hurt

Not completely true, if you didnt see my thread I was having "back pumps" and then the pee came, then the pain, and I mean pain came. Then I dropped the Dbol and 4 days later it went away.