Here's What I Got From A.R.!

[Phunkophonic]

The Good The Bad and The Ugly.
The Good, Steroids , if youve done your homework they can be very beneficial.
The Bad, Steroids, if you dont know anything about them you shouldnt consider
the third.
The Ugly.Getting into to it without any knowledge can get yourself in a lot
of trouble and Im not talking legally, that has its loop holes,
but screw up your liver, clog your receptors, mess up your sack etc etc
and there might be no turning back. "Clog your receptors" this is something
I heard from a guy who's "in the bussiness" he told me his receptors were cloged up from lack of knowledge as he put it "I didnt know what I was doing! and at an early age I went into it blindly and screwed myself up! Now Im not sure if this can really happen, and its something I havent come across A.R. yet.
Now this is the same guy that told me to do a cycle of winny and that I would get ripped, get some size etc etc. Well, before I started jucing myself up I punched in steroids in a search engine and looked at a couple of sites.
found
A.R., Joined, got hooked, and havent left since! So then I posted up the bottle I got from him.
so far, so good. But then I decided to read a lil more about winny put
up a couple more posts and as I read I realized something, Im about to make the same mistake this guy made! I dont know ----! Now as to many other things that I have learned on this forum,
other than I should be doing a test first, Id like to thank this forum for saving my !LIVER! and possibly a waste
of money and a cycle I can do correctly now.
Also I have learned that some things have to be tailored to meet someone's specific needs, and goals. Ive gone to the educational post and I definitely
have learned a massive amount of knowledge there.
So, as to my first cycle, its a test and nothin but the test but Im not sure
what kind. I assume not Sus because if I did a poll most dont like this test. Again I could be wrong Im still a rookie. All I know is that I dont
want any flu like symptoms personally, and I dont want to shoot every day with Prop unless I should. So its Cyp or Enan at 500mg/wk
correct? also I shouldnt do more than 10 weeks (not sure)
and I dont need HCG for this short period of a cycle.
Nolvadex /10 - 20 mg/Day Vitamin B-6/ 200 mg/Day is this correct?
what about Clomid? I cant get that so is their another alternative?
and should I just forget the winny till the next cycle? I been taking the glucco ever since buylongterm suggested it. Well thats it, Im open to suggestions my Brothers. Im gonna wait another two weeks untill
1. I have everything I need
2. I have some more info
3. I make some more friends!

BTW Im 6'0" 210 muscular build and 10% BF Should I tailor anything based
around this. My goal is simple more size more rip less gut.

Oh yea one more thing Ive applied.
Keep A.R. close and these morons on the street on a shelf!

[kronik]

No need for the b-6 on a test only cycle and 10 weeks will be a good starter but you could go 12 weeks with no problems. Test e and CYP are your best choices, I prefer test e it seems to have less sides from what I have read(never used cyp myself).

[Phunkophonic]

No need for the b-6 on a test only cycle and 10 weeks will be a good starter but you could go 12 weeks with no problems. Test e and CYP are your best choices, I prefer test e it seems to have less sides from what I have read(never used cyp myself).

Gyno , acne , balding? anythingelse?

[kronik]

From what I have read and been told cyp will make you hold more water, but everyone is different. Most people recommend Test E over Cyp though.

[Phunkophonic]

From what I have read and been told cyp will make you hold more water, but everyone is different. Most people recommend Test E over Cyp though.

The product Im getting is from Q.V. its a CYP what do you think?
Ive read thats stuff burns. true? actually I really aint to pussed out bout that
but is there other another problem I should be concerned with other then a lil burn and sting Im deff gonna go with the Enan if I could get it of course.
what product or company would you recommend?

[kronik]

Well I have read that QV is sometimes underdosed and has a high BA content and most of the UG labs out right know have very good products...

[Phunkophonic]

Well I have read that QV is sometimes underdosed and has a high BA content and most of the UG labs out right know have very good products...

Im gonna sound like a dumb ass here but I gotta know "WHAT IS BA?"
PROMISE ILL GO RESEARCH RIGHT NOW!

[Sage]

i'm running some of the QV gear and its not that bad.....its alright by me

[kronik]

Im gonna sound like a dumb ass here but I gotta know "WHAT IS BA?"
PROMISE ILL GO RESEARCH RIGHT NOW!

benzyl alcohol

[Phunkophonic]

benzyl alcohol

Aaaahhhh! thanx soooo much bro!!
Peace!!!

[Tryin2getHUGE]

At least it sounds like you did some research bro. Like Kronik stated without running deca you dont need the b6. I like enan better personally for bulk as that is what I am running next cycle. You will need clomid for pct, just do a search for "research chemicals" here (thats a freebie), and I would drop the winny unless you are below 10% body fat. JMO

[Phunkophonic]

Aaaahhhh! thanx soooo much bro!!
Peace!!!

what is trib? should I use it? and milk thistle, with the cycle everyday?

[Tryin2getHUGE]

what is trib? should I use it? and milk thistle, with the cycle everyday?

Milk thistle is for your liver bro, when using dbol so no you dont need it.

[dumblucky]

I like cypionate
I like QV

If you cant get clomid youi havent done a search on ancilliaries on the www
but you could use the novadex for pct..

[kronik]

I like cypionate
I like QV

If you cant get clomid youi havent done a search on ancilliaries on the www
but you could use the novadex for pct..

With clomid...

[kronik]

Milk thistle is for your liver bro, when using dbol so no you dont need it.

Or any any other 17aa oral...but I personally take it ED no matter what I am doing.

[Blown_SC]

what is trib? should I use it? and milk thistle, with the cycle everyday?

Trib is Tribulus.... use the search button to find out more about it...

Also, check out my thread...

You can take Prop EOD... (u said that you shouldn't above)...

Such as what DB mentioned... 150mg EOD..., versus 75mg ED...

[AandF6969]

clog your receptors

From what ive heard, this is complete and total bull$hit.

[Phunkophonic]

From what ive heard, this is complete and total bull$hit.

Sorry, Dont Xtacly know what you mean??

[kronik]

Trib is Tribulus.... use the search button to find out more about it...

Also, check out my thread...

You can take Prop EOD... (u said that you shouldn't above)...

Such as what DB mentioned... 150mg EOD..., versus 75mg ED...

I saw that post by DB and to be honest I was very shocked he said it...I know that it can be shot EOD(hell it can be shot once EW for that matter) but I still think it is best to shoot ED IMO. EOD probably wont hurt, since I will using prop in my next cycle I may shoot EOD to see what it is like because I am not real fond of ED shots.

[Blown_SC]

I saw that post by DB and to be honest I was very shocked he said it...I know that it can be shot EOD(hell it can be shot once EW for that matter) but I still think it is best to shoot ED IMO. EOD probably wont hurt, since I will using prop in my next cycle I may shoot EOD to see what it is like because I am not real fond of ED shots.

Being that it will be my, and his, first cycle... I figured that he would be happier at EOD...

MBH said that he gets nipple soreness from EOD Prop, and that ED doesn't bother him...

I will have to see...

[Phunkophonic]

Being that it will be my, and his, first cycle... I figured that he would be happier at EOD...

MBH said that he gets nipple soreness from EOD Prop, and that ED doesn't bother him...

I will have to see...

Im gonna stick with Enth

[Blown_SC]

Im gonna stick with ED

I'm assuming you are set on Prop now?(above statement)

Or do you still want to do Enth or Cyp...

[AandF6969]

From what ive heard, this is complete and total bull$hit.

Ive read in numerous posts that this is a myth about your receptors clogging. I think it was einstein who posted a big long thing about it. Ill see if i cant dig it up.

[Phunkophonic]

My bad! I meant Enth.

[Blown_SC]

My bad! I meant Enth.

OK.. i was just checking... makin sure you knew you didn't have to inj. ED with Enth...

Good luck bro... peace....

[Tryin2getHUGE]

Or any any other 17aa oral...but I personally take it ED no matter what I am doing.

Thats interesting. I have never heard that but I am sure it cant HURT you. I usually only take it when on gear. But like B6 and B12 I take ED for health purposes.

From what ive heard, this is complete and total bull$hit.

I agree with you on this bro. I forget where I read it but I am pretty sure, like 95% sure, that you are right on on this one. I think, I could be mistaken thoug, that Einstein made a post about receptors.

[Phunkophonic]

OK.. i was just checking... makin sure you knew you didn't have to inj. ED with Enth...

Good luck bro... peace....

Thanx for your time brother. peace

[daos]

I saw that post by DB and to be honest I was very shocked he said it...I know that it can be shot EOD(hell it can be shot once EW for that matter) but I still think it is best to shoot ED IMO. EOD probably wont hurt, since I will using prop in my next cycle I may shoot EOD to see what it is like because I am not real fond of ED shots.

thats something i have been battling with lately. prop is in my mext cycle, and im pondering on the thought of either ED or EOD.

[Phunkophonic]

I just read bout a guy who shot 2gs a wk on his first cycle, for 10 wks
Im wondering if a lil higher dose for me is ok?

[Blown_SC]

I just read bout a guy who shot 2gs a wk on his first cycle, for 10 wks
Im wondering if a lil higher dose for me is ok?

Are you referring to BDTR's thread?

If so, read the posts within the thread....

Everyone has different opinions bro...

[Phunkophonic]

Are you referring to BDTR's thread?

If so, read the posts within the thread....

Everyone has different opinions bro...

Yep! Ill play it safe Im thinking 600 wk

[kronik]

I just read bout a guy who shot 2gs a wk on his first cycle, for 10 wks
Im wondering if a lil higher dose for me is ok?

This was the only downfall to BDTR's thread. Everyone will think they can do 1g or more for a first cycle and get away with it. More is not always better

[Phunkophonic]

This was the only downfall to BDTR's thread. Everyone will think they can do 1g or more for a first cycle and get away with it. More is not always better

I agree with this 100%


BTW I forgot too add Im 39 y/o