Long cycles >=< Short cycles

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07-25-2004, 02:16 PM
The Natural

Long cycles >=< Short cycles

What is best???
Long cycles (over 15wks) or short/normal ones(10wks)???

What is your opinion? Arguments for/against?
I would like personal experience, rather than some theories...

So bring it!!!
07-25-2004, 02:19 PM
scotttiger54

i prefer 12-14 week cycles. not to long but definitley not short
07-25-2004, 02:20 PM
kronik

I just did a 12 weeks cycle of test e and bridging with winny now. To be honest I stopped strength gains around week 8 or 9 and they just returned in my 3rd week if winny. JMO
07-25-2004, 02:22 PM
ENraged

wouldnt it all kind of rest on what your goals are? i havent seen many 16+ week cutting cycles. i have seen a bunch of longer bulker tho?
07-25-2004, 02:25 PM
scotttiger54

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronik

I just did a 12 weeks cycle of test e and bridging with winny now. To be honest I stopped strength gains around week 8 or 9 and they just returned in my 3rd week if winny. JMO

just curious bro, whats your opinions on bridging?
07-25-2004, 02:26 PM
kronik

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronik

I just did a 12 weeks cycle of test e and bridging with winny now. To be honest I stopped strength gains around week 8 or 9 and they just returned in my 3rd week if winny. JMO

I did continue to get bigger but not stronger.
07-25-2004, 02:26 PM
map200uk

true depends on goals id say, but i prefer short/avg cycles i.e. upto 12/15 wks

not a fan of year long cycles
07-25-2004, 02:27 PM
kronik

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotttiger54

just curious bro, whats your opinions on bridging?

Alot of bros dont like it, but it seems to have me over the hump, as far as strength gains are concerned anyway.
07-25-2004, 02:29 PM
Da Bull

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronik

I just did a 12 weeks cycle of test e and bridging with winny now. To be honest I stopped strength gains around week 8 or 9 and they just returned in my 3rd week if winny. JMO

So you'll bridge with winny til your next cycle?Or are you just running winny til pct?If the latter is the case,that's not bridging bro..
07-25-2004, 02:30 PM
scotttiger54

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronik

Alot of bros dont like it, but it seems to have me over the hump, as far as strength gains are concerned anyway.

yea i hear a lot of different opinions about bridging. i've always played with the idea of doing it myself but always figured it to be best to take the time off. whats your mg intake look like while you bridge?
07-25-2004, 02:31 PM
kronik

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Bull

So you'll bridge with winny til your next cycle?Or are you just running winny til pct?If the latter is the case,that's not bridging bro..

bridging till PCT..
07-25-2004, 02:31 PM
scotttiger54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Bull

So you'll bridge with winny til your next cycle?Or are you just running winny til pct?If the latter is the case,that's not bridging bro..

hopefully one of our senior members wouldn't consider the latter to be bridging ;)
07-25-2004, 02:32 PM
kronik

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotttiger54

yea i hear a lot of different opinions about bridging. i've always played with the idea of doing it myself but always figured it to be best to take the time off. whats your mg intake look like while you bridge?

Just the standard 50mgED Winny...
07-25-2004, 02:32 PM
scotttiger54

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronik

bridging till PCT..

:eek:
07-25-2004, 02:32 PM
Da Bull

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Natural

What is best???
Long cycles (over 15wks) or short/normal ones(10wks)???

What is your opinion? Arguments for/against?
I would like personal experience, rather than some theories...

So bring it!!!

First of all,it's good to see you on the board again.It's been awhile. :hello:

I prefer longer cycles myself.Much easier to keep the gains since your body will become more adapt to the weight change.Homeostasis :lift:
07-25-2004, 02:35 PM
Da Bull

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotttiger54

hopefully one of our senior members wouldn't consider the latter to be bridging ;)

It's NOT bridging.Must of us know that tho. :hello:
07-25-2004, 02:35 PM
scotttiger54

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronik

Just the standard 50mgED Winny...

bro thats still considered part of your actual cycle. its always a good idea to run an oral like that during the latter part of your cycle so you can start pct immediately after coming off. its obvious that you know that, just got your technicalities mixed up a bit.
07-25-2004, 02:37 PM
kronik

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotttiger54

:eek:

I think I need to make myself more clear, I am not sure I will start PCT since I have started to see gains again. I may go straight back into my next cycle in a few more weeks...
07-25-2004, 02:37 PM
scotttiger54

bridging, by definition, is using a lower dose of AAS -between- cycles
07-25-2004, 02:38 PM
kronik

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotttiger54

bro thats still considered part of your actual cycle. its always a good idea to run an oral like that during the latter part of your cycle so you can start pct immediately after coming off. its obvious that you know that, just got your technicalities mixed up a bit.

I know oral only are bad news but it is most likely for a couple of weeks..
07-25-2004, 02:39 PM
scotttiger54

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronik

I think I need to make myself more clear, I am not sure I will start PCT since I have started to see gains again. I may go straight back into my next cycle in a few more weeks...

ok so basically your just not gonna technically end your cycle, your just gonna go straight into another one.
07-25-2004, 02:39 PM
kronik

I was in the same ballpark as LOZ till he started pissing blood, with the hype of orals... :unsure: now
07-25-2004, 02:41 PM
kronik

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotttiger54

ok so basically your just not gonna technically end your cycle, your just gonna go straight into another one.

Well technically I call it bridging for about 6 weeks till I start back but yeah thats it..
07-25-2004, 02:41 PM
scotttiger54

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronik

I know oral only are bad news but it is most likely for a couple of weeks..

well you already know what everyone will say to that... just remember your milk thistle
07-25-2004, 02:43 PM
scotttiger54

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronik

Well technically I call it bridging for about 6 weeks till I start back but yeah thats it..

alright well were all with ya now. how long are you thinking about running the winny by itself?
07-25-2004, 02:50 PM
kronik

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotttiger54

alright well were all with ya now. how long are you thinking about running the winny by itself?

6 weeks..Here is my situation. At first I was going for the beach body look and later decided to go for the monster look. My wife and I are planning to have another child in about a year and I want to get as much bulk as possible over the next 4-5 months before I come off gear completely for most likely 1-2 years. I want to get my boys functioning properly before we try so that is why I will be out for probably 1-2 years. Hope this help with my scenerio.
07-25-2004, 03:07 PM
scotttiger54

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronik

6 weeks..Here is my situation. At first I was going for the beach body look and later decided to go for the monster look. My wife and I are planning to have another child in about a year and I want to get as much bulk as possible over the next 4-5 months before I come off gear completely for most likely 1-2 years. I want to get my boys functioning properly before we try so that is why I will be out for probably 1-2 years. Hope this help with my scenerio.

well thats understandable. i don't see the harm in running it just 6 wks, however, i still would not recommend it. but you have an idea and goal that your setting for yourself so i wish you the best of luck with it all
07-25-2004, 03:09 PM
scotttiger54

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Natural

What is best???
Long cycles (over 15wks) or short/normal ones(10wks)???

What is your opinion? Arguments for/against?
I would like personal experience, rather than some theories...

So bring it!!!

and terribly sorry on behalf of myself and kronik for hijacking your thread bro :wg:
07-25-2004, 03:16 PM
kingofmasters

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Natural

What is best???
Long cycles (over 15wks) or short/normal ones(10wks)???

What is your opinion? Arguments for/against?
I would like personal experience, rather than some theories...

So bring it!!!

depending on the compounds used!
and the combos of them!

Oral only cycles --> 6 weeks!
Test only cycles --> 10-12 weeks
Test + DHT at end --> 12 weeks
Anything with Boldenon in it --> Minimum of 12 weeks (Test should be ran 2 weeks longer so 14 weeks)
Tren --> 10 weeks max (with the Test two weeks longer!)

You get the picture!

Right now am planning:

Week 1-16 Test Enantate 450 mg E3D
Week 1-14 Boldenon 300 mg E3D
Week 1-12 Oxabolone Cypionate 300 mg E3D
Week13-18 Anavar 50 mg + Miotolan 25 mg + Methyl-DHT 25 mg

(Meaning 2.5 ml shots every 3 days + 2 times a day an oral liquid)

Greets
Kingofmasters
07-25-2004, 03:22 PM
kronik

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotttiger54

well thats understandable. i don't see the harm in running it just 6 wks, however, i still would not recommend it. but you have an idea and goal that your setting for yourself so i wish you the best of luck with it all

Thanks bro...alright you can have your thread back now...SORRY :)
08-01-2004, 12:30 PM
The Natural

Quote:

Originally Posted by Da Bull

First of all,it's good to see you on the board again.It's been awhile. :hello:

I prefer longer cycles myself.Much easier to keep the gains since your body will become more adapt to the weight change.Homeostasis :lift:

Thanx bro!
Its GOOD to be back!!! :afro:

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