Why do you use T400 and other painfull stuff?

There must be good reasons for people to put up with the awful pain of prop and T400 and other painful TESTs.

A couple reasons seem to be:

1) more bang per mg. since less of the molecule is wasted on the ester
2) less water and bloat
3) you get into the kick zone much sooner
4) you can go into PCT immediately after last shot

Still this does not seem to justify the pain of T400 and other TESTs that virtualy cripple people and make daily routine agopnizing.

So - to those of you are using T400 and such - what are your reasons ?

Prop does not have to hurt, my prop is painless.

I see no reason to use T 400, most people talk of cutting it with oil anyway!

I'll never use T400 again...Most prop I've tried has hurt so I use the other esters with an anit estrogen...

T400 was a waste of time and money. I get better gains off straight esthers like Cyp. and Enth. I've read that it is underdosed anyway and it shows.

It seems when there is more MG's per ML the more painful the test. However if you are one of those members who use high dosages of test it would be easier to use the more highly concentrated ones then the low MG line. In other words its easier to inject a lot more at 400mg/ml then 250mg/ml. which is key when it comes to High dosage cycles

yea im shooting 4 cc's of oil every week to get my testerone (1,000 mgs) and i cant wait until i switch to the 300 mg/ml gear i have so i can shoot just a little over 3 cc's instead. i dont think i'd ever run prop... i have a high tolerance for pain, but BA just kills me for some reason.

I ran SL Prop for more than 4 weeks. I can honestly say, I had pain just a few times and the pain wasn't that bad.

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Originally Posted by buylongterm

I ran SL Prop for more than 4 weeks. I can honestly say, I had pain just a few times and the pain wasn't that bad.

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SL's t250 has a slight sting to it compared to other UG gear i've run. not as bad as QV, but still, its bothersome.

im glad to hear his prop wasnt too bad after you adjusted to it.

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Originally Posted by monstercojones

SL's t250 has a slight sting to it compared to other UG gear i've run. not as bad as QV, but still, its bothersome.

im glad to hear his prop wasnt too bad after you adjusted to it.

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I am glad to hear that QV is worse then most UG labs. I can take QV like a champ.

I use QV pretty much exclusively, and I have never had any problems with pain. And thats including Prop and Enth.

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Originally Posted by ironfist

I'll never use T400 again...

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Same here...ran it for 3 weeks and switched to enanthate instead.The day after soreness was almost crippling for me.

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Originally Posted by Da Bull

Same here...ran it for 3 weeks and switched to enanthate instead.The day after soreness was almost crippling for me.

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im tellin you... thats nothing compared to IP Sust300. t400 was a delight after that stuff. damm chinaman :chinese:

Me and a friend have used Denkall Test 400 for many many weeks now and I want to say that pain with it is complete BS. I have injected over 5 times now as well as my friend and we have never had so much as a lump or pain for more than 24 hours. Not to mention that pain has been less than a bruise. Him and I mix it with sterile oil and heat it up as hot as my water heater will allow. I swear the most pain I've had is negligable at best. I would think maybe it was just my reaction but my friend has had no problems with it either. Our gains our great right now too, so I know it's working. Honestly I think people don't mix enough oil with it and don't bother heating it up. I had 100 times more pain from a recent antibiotic shot I got at my docs than I ever have with my test injections.

I'm running prop now and walking around like I have a stick up my arse limping, it's QV but I'm running quite a bit so it is probably the volume of the shots.

haha man u must have a good tolerance for the pain.
From everybody else ive talked to the pain from t400
is a bitch.

I refuse to use T400, it hurts like hell. I am scared of the ****. When I see that stuff I have nightmares. Clen cramps and T400 pain are the mother of all pains lol. But if you dont mind pain well then go 4 it, and I love how its 400mg p/jab, thats awsome.

yeah but it just hurts i mean if u wanted to run a huge cyclen then t400
would be thing. But u would need to find a way to keep away from the
pain.

There is no way you can escape the T400 pain my friend

T400 isnt bad if you mix it with Liquid Dbol, or a sterile oil. Otherwise it hurts like a bitch. I started with "testoprimD" first and NOTHING I've tried hurt like that.

The reason I use it is purely based on value. 10 Ml for $46. You cant beat that.

cool

Maybe if you got really blazed before u take the shot, it won't hurt so bad, or maybe not

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Originally Posted by rev911apollyon

Maybe if you got really blazed before u take the shot, it won't hurt so bad, or maybe not

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it would hurt more. pot makes you hyper-focus.

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Originally Posted by monstercojones

it would hurt more. pot makes you hyper-focus.

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Yep... I shot 3cc's Brovel Test 200 then smoked weed the next nite..... I wanted to die...

I'm telling you guys I swear, Test 400 with oil and heat doesn't hurt hardly at all. My friend said the same. Mixing 1cc oil to every 1cc test is what I do.

once i started splitting my 1cc of t400 into 2 injections per week and started heating it up quite a bit before injecting, i have experienced minimal pains....

if i hadnt made this move then i dont think i could have continued using it...those 1cc injections were a real pain in the a$$....

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Originally Posted by monstercojones

it would hurt more. pot makes you hyper-focus.

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I realized this myself from my tatoo experience. It's much better to smoke after.