1 more 1st cycler lookin for your input

[akiraproject24]

age:25
weight:196
height:6'0"
been lifting:2 years 2 months

Diet is down pat, secondary supps in place(saw palmetto, R-ALA)

this is my original cycle plan:

Dbol 30mg/day week 1-4
test enth 400mg/week week 1-10
EQ 400 mg/week week 1-10
nolva 20 mg/day week 1-15
clomid
Week 1 300mg 1st day, 100mg day 2-6
Week 2 100 mg per day
Week 3 50 mg/day

As a first cycle is it wise to run 3 compounds? Perhaps i should leave out the EQ? Or keep the EQ and lose the Dbol? Lastly if anyone uses a hair product to keep DHT levels at the scalp minimal let me know (i swear M1T thinned me slightly) thanks and later

[w_rballs]

3 compounds is too much for a first cycle. i would stick test and eq. a few things though. run the test one week longer than the EQ so u can start pct 2 weeks after last shot of test. also increase the test dose by 100 mg/week. u want to have the test higher than the other compounds

[scotttiger54]

my personal opinion is that you should run test only for your 1st. 500mg of test en./wk for 12 wks would suit you just fine. also, run nolva at 10mg/ed to keep the estrogen down a bit

[BUYLONGTERM]

To much. You need to run the EQ longer. 10 weeks isn't enough...

test enth 400mg/week week 1-13
EQ 400 mg/week week 1-12
nolva 10 mg/day week 1-15
L-dex .25g
clomid
Week 1 300mg 1st day, 100mg day 2-6
Week 2 100 mg per day
Week 3 50 mg/day

[gregkovac]

I agree with buylongterm. Except i would up the L-dex to .50 and skip the nolva.

[Demon Deacon]

age:25
weight:196
height:6'0"
been lifting:2 years 2 months

Diet is down pat, secondary supps in place(saw palmetto, R-ALA)

this is my original cycle plan:

Dbol 30mg/day week 1-4
test enth 400mg/week week 1-10
EQ 400 mg/week week 1-10
nolva 20 mg/day week 1-15
clomid
Week 1 300mg 1st day, 100mg day 2-6
Week 2 100 mg per day
Week 3 50 mg/day

As a first cycle is it wise to run 3 compounds? Perhaps i should leave out the EQ? Or keep the EQ and lose the Dbol? Lastly if anyone uses a hair product to keep DHT levels at the scalp minimal let me know (i swear M1T thinned me slightly) thanks and later

Eq needs to be ran at least 12 weeks to get anything out of it. Personally with a first cycle i would lower dbol to 25mg/day. Run clomid like this 300 first day, 100 next 10 days, 50mg next 20 days.

Secondly for a first cycle i would just do test e at 500mg/wk

[Consistency]

To much. You need to run the EQ longer. 10 weeks isn't enough...

test enth 400mg/week week 1-13
EQ 400 mg/week week 1-12
nolva 10 mg/day week 1-15
L-dex .25g
clomid
Week 1 300mg 1st day, 100mg day 2-6
Week 2 100 mg per day
Week 3 50 mg/day

this looks good... and you dont necessarely have to run test higher then EQ. EQ is one of the few execptions

[dirtdawg]

this looks good... and you dont necessarely have to run test higher then EQ. EQ is one of the few execptions

EQ does dry your joints out, so it might be a good idea to run test higher

[akiraproject24]

The L-dex/arimidex seems like it does a better job than the nolva (from what Ive been reading). I gotta see if my guy can get it, since I dont like using those liquid research only products. I just dont have much faith in em. If I cant get L-dex Ill stick with the nolva. As far as a test e only, perhaps it would be the wisest way to go first time around. I gotta convince myself though, Ive been so set in my cycle up to now. Ill definately drop the Dbol , I dont like that 17 alkylated stuff anyhow. Liver dont either.

[w_rballs]

get both nolva and l-dex. they are differnet. one is a SERM( selective estrogen receptor modulator) and the other is a aromatase inhibitor (sp).

[thejuiceisloose]

get both nolva and l-dex. they are differnet. one is a SERM( selective estrogen receptor modulator) and the other is a aromatase inhibitor (sp).

You need to get both, like W stated