im new 2 steroids man, HELP

**jimmytraining** · 02-11-2009, 01:56 PM

yo im a 20year old doorman workin on one of the hardest doors in liverpool so i thought i would ask you guys for help on some stuff

iv been working out now for around 3 years and havnt realy made any good gains

weight:12st 3lb (77.6kg) (171 pounds)
height: 5'9
body fat: 32.7%
body fat mass: 25.3kg

my diet is,
8am- banana. egg whites, porride
10am- weight gain shake
12pm-tuna, pasta,
2pm- weight gain shake
4pm- chicken, rice
5pm- peanutbutter sandwich (go the gym)
6pm- peanutbutter sandwich, protein shake return from gym)
8pm- tuna, pasta, banana
11pm- protein shake

i also take 1000mg of glutamine a once a day, 1 cod liver oil a day, 6 amino acids a day, 6 creatine a day and 2 vitamin c a day

this monday i started a course of steroids which is 20ml of sus and 20ml of deca and 20 A-BOMB tablets i am goin to try and make this course last for 6 weeks, i was wondering what type of gains i would make of this and if there is any other steroid out there which could help me or improve my course, i thing iv givin u all the details of my training regime on this, hope u guys can help!!!!!!!!

**redz** · 02-11-2009, 01:59 PM

6 weeks of deca is not long enough same with the sustanon both need to be ran 10 weeks plus. You need to get more gear also do you have a pct planed? 32% bf? at 171lbs my god thats aweful you need diet not steroids .

**MMArmour** · 02-11-2009, 02:01 PM

*sigh*.

Why the **** didnt you come here BEFORE you started? It is ****ING astounding to me how people want to know WTF they are doing AFTER its been done!

32% body fat is HORRIBLE. You have NO BUSINESS using steroids .

What is your sust dosed @ per ml?
What is the deca dosed @ per ml?
How much have you injected?
What is your injection/dosing schedule?

6 weeks isnt enough.

20 a50 tabs isnt shit.

What do you know about PCT?

**Big** · 02-11-2009, 02:02 PM

you should not be using steroids at your present body fat%, you will likely cause yourself a lot of problems.

**chuckt12345** · 02-11-2009, 02:03 PM

seriously doubt its 32%

**Big** · 02-11-2009, 02:04 PM

you should post a pic to show us what you're working with.

**10nispro** · 02-11-2009, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Big

you should post a pic to show us what you're working with.

You getting pictures, again? Wait till admin hear's about this. J/J.

To the poster: Please let us help with all your questions.

**chuckt12345** · 02-11-2009, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by MMArmour

*sigh*.

Why the **** didnt you come here BEFORE you started? It is ****ING astounding to me how people want to know WTF they are doing AFTER its been done!

32% body fat is HORRIBLE. You have NO BUSINESS using steroids .

What is your sust dosed @ per ml?
What is the deca dosed @ per ml?
How much have you injected?
What is your injection/dosing schedule?

6 weeks isnt enough.

Ha,, deep breaths, deep breaths.

20 a50 tabs isnt shit.

What do you know about PCT?

Ha,, deep breaths, deep breaths.

**MMArmour** · 02-11-2009, 02:14 PM

^^^ going ****ing postal! haha

**jimmytraining** · 02-11-2009, 02:17 PM

i used a machine in the gym for my body fat count and it came out at 32 but i think its rong man i got it done the month b4 and it was 14% im just telling u guys what the machine told me

**jimmytraining** · 02-11-2009, 02:18 PM

the guy i got the juice off had nothing for pct but im trying 2 get my hands on some clomid, its hard 2 get hold of wer im from tho

***T-MOS*** · 02-11-2009, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by MMArmour

*sigh*.

Why the **** didnt you come here BEFORE you started? It is ****ING astounding to me how people want to know WTF they are doing AFTER its been done!

32% body fat is HORRIBLE. You have NO BUSINESS using steroids .

What is your sust dosed @ per ml?
What is the deca dosed @ per ml?
How much have you injected?
What is your injection/dosing schedule?

6 weeks isnt enough.

20 a50 tabs isnt shit.

What do you know about PCT?

^^^^^ AGREED TIMES TEN !!!

I guess its just that time of year....they are coming out of the woodwork

***T-MOS*** · 02-11-2009, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by jimmytraining

the guy i got the juice off had nothing for pct but im trying 2 get my hands on some clomid, its hard 2 get hold of wer im from tho

YO !! You NEVER, and I mean NEVER start ANY cycle until you HAVE IN HAND all your PCT compounds.... for the above exact reason....now if you dont' get any, you are REALLY screwed !!!!

good luck YO

**chuckt12345** · 02-11-2009, 02:22 PM

if your 32% you would be OBESE at your weight and height. Im talking all fat and no muscle, face like a marshmellow.

You def want to run clomid and nolva for pct to be safe.
Your also young so its not advised but oh well you already started and i doubt that will make you stop. WHat mg/ml's are your products.

**ghettoboyd** · 02-11-2009, 02:22 PM

you guys are gonna scare him away. dude u will get the help you need if you start answering the basics like your stats. dont be afraid there a peeps here that will help you.

***T-MOS*** · 02-11-2009, 02:23 PM

Yes yes we want to help if you are willing to listen. but you really need to be asking these questions before you start so we could have saved you from POSSIBLE complications.

**jimmytraining** · 02-11-2009, 02:23 PM

im havin 1ml of sus every monday wednesday friday and 2ml deca every satday, should i keep this goin for 10weeks, i was told only to take A-BOMBS for 4weeks because they can do serious damage

***T-MOS*** · 02-11-2009, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by jimmytraining

im havin 1ml of sus every monday wednesday friday and 2ml deca every satday, should i keep this goin for 10weeks, i was told only to take A-BOMBS for 4weeks because they can do serious damage

OK, when you say 1 ml, that doesn't tell us the concentration, which should be in MGS/ML so we know how many MGS you are putting into your body

yes, stop the a bombs at 4 weeks

**Joker111086** · 02-11-2009, 02:26 PM

lol dude 32% body fat??? @ 171lbs... and 5'9. that cant be right that means ur roughly 60lbs of fat??? 110lbs lean lmao theres no way

**jimmytraining** · 02-11-2009, 02:26 PM

well my body mass index is 25.1

**chuckt12345** · 02-11-2009, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by jimmytraining

im havin 1ml of sus every monday wednesday friday and 2ml deca every satday, should i keep this goin for 10weeks, i was told only to take A-BOMBS for 4weeks because they can do serious damage

what mg's is the sust and deca per ml?????

**kaberle_15** · 02-11-2009, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by jimmytraining

well my body mass index is 25.1

You should really post up a picture so we can see the real deal.

**jimmytraining** · 02-11-2009, 02:29 PM

on the bottle of deca im taking it says deca 100mg i take that once a week

***T-MOS*** · 02-11-2009, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by jimmytraining

on the bottle of deca im taking it says deca 100mg i take that once a week

This is like pulling teeth.

OK the deca is 100mgs/ml good,

NOW what about the sust??? Why do we have to ask over and over again when WE are trying to help you????

**jimmytraining** · 02-11-2009, 02:31 PM

the sus jus says 250 on it

**jimmytraining** · 02-11-2009, 02:31 PM

the sus is defo 250mg and i have 3 of them a week

**chuckt12345** · 02-11-2009, 02:31 PM

stop the deca ,, you dont really have enough
and im guessin prb not enough sust but you wont tell me what the mg's are

**jimmytraining** · 02-11-2009, 02:33 PM

how do u guys get your body mass checked out

**SampsonandDelilah** · 02-11-2009, 02:33 PM

***T-MOS*** · 02-11-2009, 02:33 PM

Can you please write out your cycle like this

Weeks 1-4 A Bombs @ ?mgs/day

Weeks 1-10 Sust @ 750mgs/week shot EOD

Weeks 1-9 Deca @ 100mgs/week shot once a week

This will give us a better idea of what you are doing.

Also 100mgs of Deca/week is half of what a HRT dose would be, so in my opinion you do not have near enough to run a decent cycle

**jimmytraining** · 02-11-2009, 02:34 PM

im takin 100mg deca a week and 750mg sus, i could take more deca if that helps

***T-MOS*** · 02-11-2009, 02:35 PM

So you are taking 750 mgs of sust per week and this is your first cycle

PLEASE stop everything and get PCT compounds asap!!!

Or at least divide the sust so that you are only taking 500mgs/week

Drop the deca for now, and get your PCT ASAP or sooner

**jimmytraining** · 02-11-2009, 02:37 PM

im only at the very beginin having only had one jab, so could u rite me a good cycle out and il start from scratch, sorry bout not understanding all this fellas but im new 2 it, i was just told 2 beef up for my job and thought it would of been simple but i was rong, i hope u guys can help me

**MMArmour** · 02-11-2009, 02:38 PM

You have failed. haha

**SampsonandDelilah** · 02-11-2009, 02:38 PM

Drop the A-bombs and Deca and run the Sust at 500 weekly eod inj (or every 3.5 at worse)

**jimmytraining** · 02-11-2009, 02:39 PM

i take pct 2 weeks after my last shot rite

**jimmytraining** · 02-11-2009, 02:40 PM

i can get unlimited amounts of a-bombs deca and sus, so could u guys rite me a cycle and tell me how much muscle i would likely gain in 10 weeks off this

**SampsonandDelilah** · 02-11-2009, 02:40 PM

missed that lack of PCT as well....get that squared away first!! Read all the stickies and get your AI's/SERMS before you even start

***T-MOS*** · 02-11-2009, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by jimmytraining

im only at the very beginin having only had one jab, so could u rite me a good cycle out and il start from scratch, sorry bout not understanding all this fellas but im new 2 it, i was just told 2 beef up for my job and thought it would of been simple but i was rong, i hope u guys can help me

you don't need steroids at your age to bulk up.

You need to eat 6-8 quality meals each day, one every 2-3 hours

you will grow like a weed on your NATURAL hormone levels at your age.

No need to shut down your already HIGH HPTA just to spend money on sticking more hormones in you