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    tren enanthate, sust, dbol, winny cycle

    what do u guys think of these together.....i just finished with tren prop and eq..threw in some winny at end...wasnt bad

    but time to plan for next.

    first time with tren enanthate ..i ran tren acetate at 75mg ed for my last one

    what ive come up with so far is

    sust 750mg weeks 1-12
    tren enanthate 500mg eod weeks 1-11(or should i just run acetate)
    dbol 50mg weeks 1-6
    winny 100mg ed weeks 8-14
    nolv 25mg ed weeks 1-end
    reg pct

    lookin to gain a solid 15-20lbs
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    Tren -E eod @ 500 or do you mean for the week?

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    oh...500 for the week...

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    Oh tren -e is sweet @ 600,feel like a bull!

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    how often do u inject....could i get away with eod...figure 200mg eod...and how does my pct line up?

    or because i plan on injecting eod...should i just go with acetate at same dose...200mg eod(already ran 75mg ed) and save me alittle money?

    actually i think i might change to this

    weeks
    1-6 50mg dbol
    1-10 750mg sust
    1-12 200mg eod tren ace.
    7-12 75mg winny

    nolv 25mg throughout untill pct(week 13) then bump to 50mg
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    if sust is 3 and tren is two...shouldnt u run TREN for 1 week past SUST?

    BTW halflife on tren enth is 10.5 days
    Last edited by Jackt23; 07-30-2004 at 08:56 PM.

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    no one has pointed out the stress on the liver from running dbol and then winny weeks 1-12

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    750mg liver detox and 1000mg milk thistle a day

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    weeks
    1-4 dbol 50m ED
    1-13 sust 750mg
    1-12 tren ace 80mg ED.
    10-15 winny 50mg run up until the day before PCT (75mg if you already know you dont feel anything on 50mg)

    PCT 18-21 days after last sust shot. Most guys start on day 18; however, since you will have over 300mg in depot of Test Decanoate you should still have higher than Natural levels of testosterone during this time. Nonetheless, it is best to start at 18 to allow for SERM blood levels to rise, so when you are actually low on Test, SERMs are already locked and loaded.

    Tren will, most likely, make you crash when you stop taking it, so it is a good to run Test longer than the Tren to allow for your body to adust to not have any Trenbolone .

    Winny run up to PCT acts as a bridge and also running it this way give further seperation from the 17aa (dbol). Dbol is usually only run wk1-4 to kickstart cycle. Any longer than that and you start putting more stress on your liver than is necessary.

    Consider running 4g tribulus ED throughout. This will help keep your boys plump.

    Your going to blow up bro.
    Last edited by BeefCakeStew; 07-30-2004 at 10:49 PM.

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    .25mg L-dex throughout for gyno, bloat, and keeping estrogen lower, which will make PCT go more smoothly because too much Estrogen causes havoc on the HTPA. Make sure you run Nolva with Ldex to avoid compromising lipid profiles.

    Id spend the money on Ldex and run Nolva at 10mg ED with it. This will keep gyno at bay. 20mg should be golden if your really worried about gyno. Again, only you know your body.

    Standard PCT protocol doesn't call for more than 20mg ED but you can do 40mg; however, it is not necessary.

    vit b6 200mg ED will keep prolactin gyno away. Dont over do the B6 because it isn't benign and according to Einstein it can hinder gains.

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