Opinions *Please* before I drop big $$-Is Halo "the ****" for strength gains?

I have finally located someone willing to send me the mexican 2.5mg stenox. Halo is something I have always wanted to try. I have "searched" for info/opinions and I was quite surprised to find past user's split 50/50 on how well it worked for them. Seemed to be like anadrol. A person either got crazy strong or sweet nothing. As anyone who has purchased stenox knows, they are not cheap. I would like to hear the good, the bad, and the ugly from people who have used stenox, or who know someone close (training partner, brother) that did. Thanks in advance.

where is Da Bull... he loves that stuff...

hmm has halo got another name i wanted to read the profile for it, but couldnt find it

also whats cheque drops? arent they good for mad strength

Halo is probably the better of the two just becasue you can only run C-drops for max 2-3 weeks. It's really toxic. Of course so is Halo but not as bad.
Both have extremely short half lives and are best taken 1 hour before training or fighting. Strength increses are partly due to the incredibly aggressive workouts you can have on either drug.

Halotestin® (fluxymesterone)

Halotestin® is the Upjohn brand name for the steroid fluoxymesterone. Structurally fluoxymesterone is a derivative of testosterone, differing from our base androgen by three structural alterations (specifically l7alpha-methyl, 11 beta-hydroxy and 9-fluoro group additions). The result is a potent oral steroid that exhibits extremely strong androgenic properties. This has a lot to due with the fact that it is derived from testosterone, and as such shares important similarities to this hormone. Most importantly, like testosterone Halotestin® appears to be a good substrate for the 5-alpha reductase enzyme. This is evidenced by the fact that a large number of its metabolites are found to be 5-alpha reduced androgens'8, which coupled with its outward androgenic nature, suggests it is converting to a much more active steroid in androgen responsive target tissues such as the skin, scalp and prostate.

The 11 beta-hydroxyl group also inhibits aromatization, making estrogen production impossible with this steroid. Estrogenic side effects such as water retention, fat fain and gynecomastia are similarly not a concern when taking this substance. Strong androgenic side effects are to be expected though, and in many cases are unavoidable. Oily skin and acne a very common for instance, at times requiring sensitive individuals to seek some form of topical or even prescription drug treatment to keep it under control. Hair loss is an additional worry, making Halotestin® a poor choice for those with an existing condition. Aggression may also become very pronounced with this drug. This effect is often desired by users looking to "harness" this in order to increase the intensity of workouts or a competition. Clearly Halotestin® is a strong androgen, and definitely one female athletes should stay away from. Masculinizing side effects can be intense, and may occur very rapidly with this substance. Even women daring enough to take Dianabol should think twice about this compound, as virilization symptoms are most often permanent.

Although Halotestin® appears to be more androgenic than testosterone, the anabolic effect of it is not very strong. This makes it a great strength drug, but not the best for gaining serious muscle mass. The predominant effect seen when taking Halotestin® is a harder, more dense look to the muscles without a notable size increase. It is therefore very useful for athletes in weight-restricted sports like wrestling, powerlifting and boxing. The strength gained from each cycle will not be accompanied by a great weight increase, allowing most competitors to stay within a specified weight range. Halotestin® also makes an excellent drug for bodybuilding contest preparation. When the competitor has an acceptably low body fat percentage, the strong androgen level (in absence of excess estrogen) can elicit an extremely hard and defined ("ripped") look to the muscles. The shift in androgen/estrogen ratio additionally seems to bring about a state in which the body may be more inclined to burn off excess fat and prevent new fat storage. The "hardening" effect of Halotestin® would therefore be somewhat similar to that seen with trenbolone, although it will be without the same level of mass gain. Clearly non-aromatizing androgens such as Halotestin® and trenbolone can play an important role during contest preparations.

The main concern with this steroid is that it can be a very toxic drug. This is due to the fact that fluoxymesterone is a 17 alpha alkylated compound, its structure altered to survive oral administration. As we discuss throughout this book, l7alpha alkylation can be very harsh to the liver. The possibility of damage is therefore a legitimate concern with Halotestin®, especially when used at higher doses or for prolonged periods of time. The total daily dosage is likewise best kept in the range of 20-40mg, used for no longer than 8 weeks. After which an equally long break (at a minimum) should be taken from all c17-AA orals. One should also resist the temptation to stack this drug with other alkylated orals if possible, and instead opt for orals without this alteration or esterified injectable compounds (which will not add to the strain on the liver).

In cutting phases a mild anabolic such as Deca-Durabolin® or Equipoise® might be a good addition, as both provide good anabolic effect without excessive estrogen buildup. Here Halotestin® will provide a well needed androgenic component, helping to promote a more solid and defined gain in muscle mass than obtained with an anabolic alone. Perhaps Primobolan® Depot would even be a better choice, as with such a combination there is no buildup of estrogen (and likewise even less worry of water and fat retention). For mass we could alternately use an injectable testosterone. A mix of 400-800mg Testosterone enanthate and 20-30mg Halotestin® for example, should prove to be an exceptional stack for strength and muscle gain. This however would be accompanied by a more significant level of side effects, both compounds exhibiting strong androgenic activity in the body.

Fluoxymesterone also seem to depress endogenous testosterone levels rather quickly with use, despite its complete lack of estrogen conversion. One therefore should consider ancillary drug use at the conclusion of each cycle in order to help restore the normal release of androgens in the body. Using a combination of HCG and Clomid®/Nolvadex® is of course the best option, the two drugs working well together to restore normal hormonal functioning. Although estrogen is not a problem with Halotestin®, the use of an antiestrogen such as Nolvadex® or Clomid® is still indicated when discontinuing a cycle. Since HCG stimulates aromatase activity in the Leydig's cells, here Nolvadex®/Clomid® help by blocking the activity of any excess estrogen that may be produced. Afterward they will also block the inhibitory effect of endogenous estrogens on the hypothalamus, stimulating the enhanced release of gonadotropins and supporting the normal biosynthesis of testosterone.

Since Halotestin® is only used for a few specific purposes, it is not in high demand among athletes. Likewise it is not a very popular item on the black market. Investing in the manufacture of a counterfeit version would probably not pay off well, no doubt the reason we haven't seen any yet. All of the various forms of Halotestin® could therefore be assumed legitimate when found in circulation. Currently the most popular item found on the black market is the Stenox brand from Mexico, sold in boxes of 20 tablets. Although the dosage of these tablets is only 2.5mg, the low price usually asked for this preparation more than compensates. Overall, Halotestin® is an effective steroid for a narrow range of uses, and is probably not the most ideal product for the recreational user.

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Originally Posted by daos

where is Da Bull... he loves that stuff...

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I'm on week 5 of Halo.I love it!!The strength is insane.No water retention,but I am more aggressive than usual.I'm running 40 mgs ED and I think you'll be very pleased with it.

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Originally Posted by map200uk

hmm has halo got another name i wanted to read the profile for it, but couldnt find it

also whats cheque drops? arent they good for mad strength

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You need to research more bro...I've seen you refer to Halo as cheque drops in the past>two totally different things bro.

Thanks guys. When you refer to the strength as insane, can you give me examples? I'm hoping I can last more than 2-3 days on a semi-strict, clean-eating diet and I want the stenox to keep up the intensity in the gym.

halotestin map200 i just read thats its really toxic almost as much as anadrol take liver precautions

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Originally Posted by bigcanadian

Thanks guys. When you refer to the strength as insane, can you give me examples? I'm hoping I can last more than 2-3 days on a semi-strict, clean-eating diet and I want the stenox to keep up the intensity in the gym.

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You ran Dbol right?well the strength gains from Halo far exceed that.Actually Halo makes Dbol look like asprin. :lift:

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Originally Posted by Da Bull

You ran Dbol right?well the strength gains from Halo far exceed that.Actually Halo makes Dbol look like asprin. :lift:

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Wow thats a pretty bold statement....Im gonna have to try some of that :)

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Originally Posted by Da Bull

You ran Dbol right?well the strength gains from Halo far exceed that.Actually Halo makes Dbol look like asprin. :lift:

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you are one hell of a salesman bull i might try some myself if i can get it

Halo is the strongest androgen available with the exception of
Miberolone and Trestolone.

Therefore any gains you get with Halo, consider them to be permanent LBM, it is also one of the few steroids suitable with crash-diets and low calorie diets and it should shred some fat.
It is not only Livertoxic but also Kidneytoxic!

Greets
Kingofmasters

Halo makes DBOL look like aspirin?? F&cking Sh&t!! OK that does it. I'm getting some halo. If anyone gives a sh&t, I'll update my progress every week or so. :bath:

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Originally Posted by bigcanadian

Halo makes DBOL look like aspirin?? F&cking Sh&t!! OK that does it. I'm getting some halo. If anyone gives a sh&t, I'll update my progress every week or so. :bath:

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You'll love it bro...it will kick in real nice in about one week. :lift:

I imagine at 40mgs a day Da Bull is getting insainly strong. I get the 10mg ones and I ussually take only 2 of them a day. And that does the trick for me. I went as high as 30mgs a day and yes there is a huge difference between 10mgs. This drug is the most potent I have ever taken mg for mg. And there isnt any bloat or water retention that is ussually seen with other orals. But like said above what you do gain you will keep. The increased aggresion will help you workout out in a way that causes you to gain some weight. Its also a mild fat burner. And when you take 20mg+ you may get the occaisional nose bleed.

Miberolone (cheque drops) are far better.

are you saying that the strength gains remain after you stop or just whatever muscle you put on? What kind of muscle gain can be expected?

Taking it by itself wont put too much mass on you . I know a guy that took 20mgs a day for 5 weeks and he said he cut up a little and gained like 7lbs. Which I can do with diet alone in 5 weeks.

The strength wont be as much while on but I think some will remain with you.

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Originally Posted by Da Bull

You need to research more bro...I've seen you refer to Halo as cheque drops in the past>two totally different things bro.

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hey man, i didnt realise i had oops

and yea i know i need to learn more, im not using either, just reading and learning, i had heard of cheque drops but couldnt find much info on them that was all:)

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Originally Posted by bdtr

Miberolone (cheque drops) are far better.

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if you can find the little fellows :(

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Originally Posted by Anhydro78

Taking it by itself wont put too much mass on you . I know a guy that took 20mgs a day for 5 weeks and he said he cut up a little and gained like 7lbs. Which I can do with diet alone in 5 weeks.

The strength wont be as much while on but I think some will remain with you.

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I agree bro...it's not really a drug for mass.Most ppl attribute little size to halo.But you have to admit,the strength gains are fantastic.I like the fact you have no water retention as well.This is my first time using it..i like it alot.

Awww poor cyciepoo.

Out of all the people in the world, i figured you'd be able to get em.

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Originally Posted by CYCLEON

if you can find the little fellows :(

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Originally Posted by CYCLEON

if you can find the little fellows :(

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Its readily available as raw powder along with Trestolone (MENT)!

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Originally Posted by bdtr

Awww poor cyciepoo.

Out of all the people in the world, i figured you'd be able to get em.

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HAHAHAHA...I thought the same thing when I read his post...they are a tad pricey tho.

the chinaman is makeing c-drops along with halo now but I would like to here some peoples results before I go trying them out.

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Originally Posted by Da Bull

You ran Dbol right?well the strength gains from Halo far exceed that.Actually Halo makes Dbol look like asprin. :lift:

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It is true. Halo is great product. Strength is going over the roof. I LOVE Halo!

anyone have any strength gain examples from it?

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Originally Posted by bdtr

Awww poor cyciepoo.

Out of all the people in the world, i figured you'd be able to get em.

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Yeah but I Im lazy these days and dont have a lot of time to squirt up my own and then have a couple 100 grams left over - I was looking for a finished product -although that would be the first product I have used from an actual "source" in Lord knows how long :lol:

well, you are probably right - Ill just check with the supply house and do it myself I guess :) and I always feel better that way when its microgram stuff anyway

If you are going for strength Id say 20-30mg dose is more potent than the ussual Tren cycle.

I get them pretty cheap so I take them often. I take them for a couple weeks between cycles. I throw them in my cycles here and there.

What kind of prices are you paying for the 2.5 Halos????

Supra makes the ready made stuff.

Got a bottle in front of my face right now.

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Originally Posted by CYCLEON

Yeah but I Im lazy these days and dont have a lot of time to squirt up my own and then have a couple 100 grams left over - I was looking for a finished product -although that would be the first product I have used from an actual "source" in Lord knows how long :lol:

well, you are probably right - Ill just check with the supply house and do it myself I guess :) and I always feel better that way when its microgram stuff anyway

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Cheque Drops..........Getting people banned from steroid forums since 2004

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Originally Posted by worldknown

anyone have any strength gain examples from it?

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Well this was a couple years ago but this is an example of the strength increase from it. I at one time could only deadlift 405x 6 times well while on a Halo only cycle. I pulled 405 x11 times. I can now deadlift 550, that seems to be the limit for my spine. When I rep in the 500's too much It seems to throw my back out of wack.

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Originally Posted by RBD85

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:rolleyes: Is there something more you'd like to know?Or you just wanted to bump for the hell of it?

no, I was interested in the topic and I wanted to hear other replies. Sorry I guess I should have waited a bit longer before bumping it

What else do you want to know about it????

So, after all that I thin I'll get some too, if I can find it. What's the best cycle proposed? 10-30 ED for 5 weeks?

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Originally Posted by triathlete

So, after all that I thin I'll get some too, if I can find it. What's the best cycle proposed? 10-30 ED for 5 weeks?

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25-30 mgs for 4-5 weeks.You can be a lunatic like me and run 40 mgs if you want. ;)

I'll probably go with 25mg for 4 weeks to start with.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by triathlete

I'll probably go with 25mg for 4 weeks to start with.

Thanks

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Good deccision bro.