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08-04-2004, 01:57 PM #1Junior Member
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Hey guys, about three months ago was my last injection of Fina/Test...Then I took my pct which lasted 21 days, seven days after that I started creatine/M1T...Well I just went and got blood work done, so I could get ready for my next cycle. The doc called and asked if I was a heavy drinker, and that my liver looked not so great. Well the thing is I dont drink, so was it from the fina/test, or the M1T? And should I wait a while for my next cycle? thanks ahead
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08-04-2004, 02:11 PM #2
how long was the cycle? Whenever a doc sees elevated liver enzymes he automatically thinks you're a drunk. How high were they?
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08-04-2004, 02:12 PM #3Junior Member
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He didnt say how hight they were, he just asked if I was a HEAVY drinker...Kinda scared me!
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08-04-2004, 02:32 PM #4Junior Member
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and the cycle ran for about 2 months Fina 100 mg eod test 250 250mg mon, and thurs
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08-04-2004, 02:34 PM #5
what were the levels did he tell you? Heck if you had a hard night of partying a day or two before that could reflect on liver values.
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08-04-2004, 02:36 PM #6Junior Member
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I partied like a week before the tests, but no drinking after that.....shuold I wait even longer to start my next cycle? Is this a big concern?
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08-04-2004, 02:47 PM #7
Well liver values can be affect by many things including prescription meds, tylenol is just plain bad. You really need to know the values, call your doc and ask the nurse, say I was asked this by the doc and it has been bothering me what are normal levels and what were mine.
Everything passes through the liver, I wouldn't get worried unless you are jaundiced, your skin is itchy, and or you have a sharp pain in the middle right side of your rib cage just underneath the ribs. To know more you need to know the values, did you ask him to run them ? Why did he test them?
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08-04-2004, 02:53 PM #8Junior Member
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I went into him to get the blood work done to see how I was doing, I told him I wasnt feeling well and wanted blood work done, didnt know what else to tell him..Ill call them right now, and Ill keep you posted...thaks for all the info
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08-04-2004, 02:54 PM #9
I would suggest you pick up some Milk Thistle and some other liver detox supplements. Run them for a month and get tested again. Remember, even high protein intake can rase you liver values. Or as "Super Size Me" showed us, really high fat levels can as well. The liver does so many things. The guy in that documentary murdered his liver for a month and the doctors told him he looked worse than a serious drunk on the tests.
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08-04-2004, 02:55 PM #10
the M1t is brutal on the organs...maybe u didnt let your liver recover quick enough from the cycle....IMO M1T is worse for your liver than your cycle was
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08-04-2004, 02:56 PM #11Originally Posted by maxxmuscle
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08-04-2004, 03:10 PM #12Junior Member
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Just got back the results.... SGOT was 93 he said normal was 50, and ALT, or SGPT was at 213 normal would be 12-61 on that one....He said thats not to bad, and to stay off m1t for a while....any suggestions?
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08-04-2004, 03:11 PM #13
I really wish there was some sort of study that would show liver toxification of AS vs Alcohol. I think a hard drinker would pound his liver harder than an AS user, anyone else?
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08-04-2004, 03:13 PM #14Junior Member
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the only thing else he said was they did four tests on the liver, the two as stated before, and the other two came back normal...Isn't it weird that the kidney tests were perfect?
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08-04-2004, 03:13 PM #15
Crap that's not nearly at a toxic level IMO. If it wasn't too bad why did he scare the crap out of you with that statement, I'm pissed FOR you at him.
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08-04-2004, 03:14 PM #16
Did anyone ask if you were running milk thistle on cycle?
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08-04-2004, 03:15 PM #17Junior Member
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lmfao...well thanks for all your help and support guys....Ill take a few weekes off, with milk thistle, then go get them done again to see if everything is good
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08-04-2004, 03:16 PM #18Junior Member
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I was but only 250 mg ed, and I think I shoulda ran like 1000mg ed
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08-04-2004, 03:18 PM #19
Yes indeed. For someone to be scared the lever values need to be in the 1000s, then your talking scirossic, hepatitus etc.. don't sweat it run some milk thistle at 1000mg ed now and clean it out.
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08-04-2004, 03:20 PM #20Junior Member
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thanks for all your help 1victor...Have a good one
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08-04-2004, 03:32 PM #21Associate Member
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Originally Posted by maxxmuscle
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08-04-2004, 03:34 PM #22Junior Member
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thanks shorty, ill do that!
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