Help building this cycle.

**GetNBig** · 08-04-2004, 06:13 PM

My next cycle im gonna do
weeks 1-4: dbol 30mgs
weeks 1-??: omnader 250 e.o.d.

And i wanted to add one more thing in maybe. Should i up the d's or are thoes ok. I ran this cycle before and combined with the diet i had i got great results. I have some home made prob from a friend i got it a few months ago maybe i should thow that in for the first few weeks?

thx for the help.

**Consistency** · 08-04-2004, 07:17 PM

12 weeks should be good on the sust. and for the prop I would use it at the end, since you are using dbol to jumpstart your cycle. At week 13,14, and 15 run 75-100mg of prop ED. Then start pct 3 days after last injection.

**BeefCakeStew** · 08-04-2004, 07:17 PM

1-4 40mg Dbol ED
1-12 Omnadren 250 EOD
Nolva 10mg ED
Ldex .25mg ED

PCT 12 days after last Omna shot.

I am fairly sure that isohexanoate has a very similiar half life to hexanoate (double check). Each of which have a half life that is slightly shorter than Enanthate .

Since you are only running 1 compound, I see no big prob with running 250mg EOD, or 875mg a week; however, this depends on your previous cycle history.

Only you know your body and what it takes to grow, so if you can get away with 30mg Dbol, I would do that.

BTW what are your stats?

**BeefCakeStew** · 08-04-2004, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Consistency

12 weeks should be good on the sust. and for the prop I would use it at the end, since you are using dbol to jumpstart your cycle. At week 13,14, and 15 run 75-100mg of prop ED. Then start pct 3 days after last injection.

Killing the cycle with prop is a smooth move (takes the guess work out of PCT start times with long esters and making gains up til PCT is a plus). Id go with 100mg ED just because he is running 875mg during cycle. What do you think?

**kronik** · 08-04-2004, 09:58 PM

Since Omnadren and Sustanon are the same(from what I have read anyway)shouldn't PCT start 18 days after last Sustanon/Omnadren inject. If you finish off with prop that is a different story.

**BeefCakeStew** · 08-04-2004, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by kronik

Since Omnadren and Sustanon are the same(from what I have read anyway)shouldn't PCT start 18 days after last Sustanon/Omnadren inject. If you finish off with prop that is a different story.

They are close; however, Omnadren has testosterone isohexanoate, 60 mg (in place of isocarpoate); and testosterone hexanoate, 100 mg (in place of Decanoate).

Hexanoate ester has carbon less that Enanthate (making PCT start time very similar to Enanthate). It has 4 less carbons than Decanoate, so that changes the start times considerably between Sust and Omnadren. Other than that they are very similar.

**kronik** · 08-04-2004, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by BeefCakeStew

They are close; however, Omnadren has testosterone isohexanoate, 60 mg (in place of isocarpoate); and testosterone hexanoate, 100 mg (in place of Decanoate).

Hexanoate ester has carbon less that Enanthate (making PCT start time very similar to Enanthate). It has 4 less carbons than Decanoate, so that changes the start times considerably between Sust and Omnadren. Other than that they are very similar.

Thanks bro..