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    Deca & Dianabol without test

    Just want to know how harsh it is to the body and what problems may occure
    Since I cant get any testo atm Im planing to run deca with dianabol

    Deca 400mg each week - 12 weeks
    Dianabol 30 mg ED - 6 weeks
    Nolvadex as PCT

    My worst worrie is about the deca dick what can I do to prevent it without running test along
    Is this cycle doable or will it be a complete mess up?

    As you see my dosage are kinda low, so keep that in mind.


    My stats is:

    age: 21
    ht: 1M.82cm
    wt: 85
    bf: Dont know but I guess very low

    Has runned some easy oral cycles(winstrol ,turanabol) and also injected tren with test.
    Been training for 7 years now

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    Quote Originally Posted by packing09 View Post
    Just want to know how harsh it is to the body and what problems may occure
    Since I cant get any testo atm Im planing to run deca with dianabol

    Deca 400mg each week - 12 weeks
    Dianabol 30 mg ED - 6 weeks
    Nolvadex as PCT

    My worst worrie is about the deca dick what can I do to prevent it without running test along
    Is this cycle doable or will it be a complete mess up?

    As you see my dosage are kinda low, so keep that in mind.


    My stats is:

    age: 21
    ht: 1M.82cm
    wt: 85
    bf: Dont know but I guess very low

    Has runned some easy oral cycles(winstrol ,turanabol) and also injected tren with test.
    Been training for 7 years now

    See the bold.
    I wouldn't dare run that cycle myself.

    GL.

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    already ran several cycles at 21? that's a shame.
    in any event deca /dbol is not a cycle anyone should run, ever.

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    The deca will shut you down hard no matter how much you use. Deca is very supressive to the natty test. That's why you always run test for two weeks loger than deca.

    If you have no test I say wait untill you do!

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    I would really reconsider your approach when designing cycles and at your age your just asking for problems, I would get some blood work done and see if you have any natural Test left.

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    Taking test with decca is the only way to keep everything working downstairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I would really reconsider your approach when designing cycles and at your age your just asking for problems, I would get some blood work done and see if you have any natural Test left.
    agreed, bloodwork should be the next step

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    Quote Originally Posted by packing09 View Post
    Just want to know how harsh it is to the body and what problems may occure
    Since I cant get any testo atm Im planing to run deca with dianabol
    so you kow its wrong to cycle without test but you will anyways because you cant get a hold of test? Makes me wonder what kind of source you have that doesnt carry test... Im guessing a not so reliable one

    Deca 400mg each week - 12 weeks
    Dianabol 30 mg ED - 6 weeks this is borderline too long to run IMO, harsh on liver
    Nolvadex as PCT going to need more than this

    My worst worrie is about the deca dick what can I do to prevent it without running test along
    Is this cycle doable or will it be a complete mess up?
    my vote would be a complete system F up

    As you see my dosage are kinda low, so keep that in mind.


    My stats is:

    age: 21 very young to be cycling, even worse since you are cycling imporperly
    ht: 1M.82cm
    wt: 85
    6' tall and 185lbs, you better be ultra lean cause this is way to light and nowhere near natural potenial
    bf: Dont know but I guess very low
    a bodycomp test is cheap and should be done before starting a cycle to assess gains

    Has runned some easy oral cycles(winstrol ,turanabol) and also injected tren with test.
    you've run a test/tren cycle and you're still only 185lbs.. definately doing something wrong bro... be careful
    Been training for 7 years now
    not really helpin us believe you're doing things properly if 7 years plus cycling equals your current stats

    sorry to sound so rude, but something is definately wrong here
    Last edited by Knockout_Power; 07-17-2010 at 12:03 PM.

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    Ok, then I guess I will wait until I get some testo.
    Then I might reconsider the cycle, is sustanon - d-bol or test entanthate - d-bol a good cycle for me?

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    Test prop is a good choice imo.

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    Thinking about a little safer cycle , Is test etan and turanabol any good?

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    Blood work. as stated.... Hey maybe you will be lucky enough to go on trt at your age... have fun pinning trt dose the rest of your life.

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    At 21 no cycle is a good cycle for you. Your ht and wt do not add up for someone who has ran so many cycles. Go get your diet in order and grow natty for a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packing09 View Post
    Just want to know how harsh it is to the body and what problems may occure
    Since I cant get any testo atm Im planing to run deca with dianabol

    Deca 400mg each week - 12 weeks
    Dianabol 30 mg ED - 6 weeks
    Nolvadex as PCT

    My worst worrie is about the deca dick what can I do to prevent it without running test along
    Is this cycle doable or will it be a complete mess up?

    As you see my dosage are kinda low, so keep that in mind.


    My stats is:

    age: 21
    ht: 1M.82cm
    wt: 85
    bf: Dont know but I guess very low

    Has runned some easy oral cycles(winstrol ,turanabol) and also injected tren with test.
    Been training for 7 years now
    I wouldnt run this cycle without some testosterone .

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