Thread: I can't take Clomid?
08-07-2004, 12:18 AM #1
I can't take Clomid?
I can't take Clomid during my upcoming PCT due to the fact that I have PVC's (pre-ventricular contractions) of the heart. They are benign but Clomid will severly aggrivate the situation. What can I take as a substitute to get similar effects?
I am currently taking Tribulus 4mg's ED and will take 20mg's of Nolvadex at PCT. I've been told Phyto-estrogen will mimic Clomid but I can't find anyone to back that up.
PS: current cycle is Deca /Winnie and I am 45 days from the end.
08-07-2004, 12:20 AM #2
Nolv at 60mgs a day and trib should be fine bro.
08-07-2004, 12:23 AM #3
08-07-2004, 12:26 AM #4They are benign but Clomid will severly aggrivate the situation.
08-07-2004, 12:27 AM #5
I see an electro-cardiologist and that came straight from his mouth.
08-07-2004, 12:31 AM #6Originally Posted by Jay Man
60mgs for 4-5weeks...trib is good at 4gs...you might even want a little more for the first couple weeks..then lower it...goodluck..sorry to hear about the complications...
08-07-2004, 12:37 AM #7
Thanks Lat! The PVC's are not a real hassle. Basically the left ventrical "misfires" forcing out the blood before it is full. This just makes for an uncomfortable heart beat every so often. I take a non-dihydro calcium channel blocker to dull the spikes. It also keeps the BP down which is a nice side effect. It hasn't slowed me down and I've been cycling since January.
Thanks again for the info.
08-07-2004, 02:01 AM #8Anabolic Member
Originally Posted by Jay Man
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Apparently there was some university study in Germany that suggest, both herbals can in fact trigger your HTPA to resume "some" production of testosterone, even while you are taking large doses of steroids . The reason tongkat is approximately 4.5 times as effective then tribulis at increasing natural testosteorne production is that tongkat is more effective at blocking testosterone/estrogen from being detected by the HTPA, however tribulis/tongkat do not block the effects of these hormones at any other receptor in the body. So I guess its true, tribulis/tongkat are not only so called "herbal clomid" but also can be considered to be "herbal HCG " for use during cycles and not just PCT. Tongkat also was found to block receptors that trigger the release of sex hormone binding globulins so this directly causes an increase in free testosterone. Something that might be recommended during testosterone using cycles and might also mean you can get more results with less testesterone.
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08-07-2004, 02:40 AM #9Originally Posted by Jay Man
He'll have to do better than that. If he can justify how he believes clomid will affect your PVCs and nolva won't, I'll quit this board (or come back and edit this post)
08-07-2004, 03:14 AM #10Originally Posted by einstein1905
Eh, but that doc knows alot more than me, so it appears I am not one to talk. It would be good to see his source for all of our benefit.
08-07-2004, 03:21 AM #11AnabolicAlien Guest
you must have some PVC's i've never heard of before bro. they're so benign that i've never heard of them even being treated before!
i'm dying to hear an explanation of how clomid can affect them!
08-07-2004, 06:04 AM #12
08-27-2004, 12:17 PM #13Originally Posted by AnabolicAlien
Do a little research and enlighten yourself before you comment.
08-27-2004, 12:31 PM #14
Yeah talk about having absolutely no sex drive.
08-27-2004, 12:42 PM #15Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose
i thought i was the only wone to notice this? yes the winny will help combat the progesterone from the deca... but where is the test to keep your dick working? sorry to hear about your problem too bro
08-27-2004, 01:13 PM #16Originally Posted by w_rballs
I've cycled Winstrol/Deca several times and getting the results I wanted. It's a great light cycle if that is what you're looking for. If not, don't try it. I really don't care.
08-27-2004, 01:17 PM #17
By the way, this whole thread was a waste of time. The idiot Cardiologist who told me I could not take clomid since it would adversely effect my PVC condition thought Clomid was Clenbuterol . What a freakin idiot. Sorry for wasting everyone's time. Clomid has no effect on PVC's. He is a highly educated doctor who apparently is a little confused. I think it's time to switch Cardiologists.
11-12-2004, 01:17 AM #18Registered User
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He just made a mistake. Although Mistakes with a potentially seroius problem can cause death.
11-12-2004, 01:26 AM #19AnabolicAlien Guest
I'm glad YOU did a little more research. I stand by what I said in an earlier post to this thread. Thanks for the apology.
11-12-2004, 01:29 AM #20Associate Member
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