08-09-2004, 12:57 PM #1
does anyone know wat proviron is and wat it does and how can i get it?
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08-09-2004, 01:11 PM #4Originally Posted by Misisko
do a search i remember a thread a while back as to how this works, also you can look up bromo
08-09-2004, 01:15 PM #5
08-09-2004, 01:48 PM #6Senior Member
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08-09-2004, 03:16 PM #7
Proviron is used for Estrogen... NOT DECA !!! Hope this helps.. i can't remember where i got it from, but have more info on it as well... it is one of the best for stoping estrogen.. not just masking it.
MESTORANUM, PLURIVIRON, PROVIRON, VISTIMON.
Found in dosages:-
10, 20, 25 AND 50mg.
30 DRAGEE PER BOX (PLURIVIRON). 20 AND 50 TABLET BOXES AND BOTTLES.
Anabolic /Androgenic Ratio:-
STRONG ANDROGENIC ACTION WITH ALMOST NON-EXISTENT ANABOLIC PROPERTIES.
Mesterolone is a strong oral androgen derived from DHT. Just as its parent compound, mesterolone cannot in any way aromatise to estrogen. In the medical field mesterolone is normally used to treat varying levels of male sexual dysfunction normally caused by a low endogenous testosterone level. Many users find a return of sexual interest along with decreased frequency of impotence problems. Another plus for mesterolone is that it can also increase sperm count in most (male) users and is often used as a fertility aid because of this. This compound does not get the bodies endocrine system back to normal as it cannot increase endogenous testosterone production, it is merely used as an androgen substitute.
Strangely, Mesterolone has only a very weak anabolic effect, surprising as most androgens have a high accompanying anabolic component such as is the case with testosterone. It is thought that this is due to its relation to DHT that like mesterolone, reduces into inactive metabolites that have no effect on altering muscle cell DNA transcription.
In the past, many athletes have avoided Mesterolone, as it was inaccurately reported to block muscle receptor sites, so making the other compounds stacked alongside it relatively inert. In actuality the opposite is thought to occur. Mesterolone has a VERY high affinity with Steroid Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG), which is one of the enemies of the steroid user from it attaching itself to steroid molecules, disabling them from delivering their muscle-building message. Since a higher proportion of the SHBG’s are kept "tied up" from Mesterolone use, higher levels of active compounds in the stack are left to do their construction work on muscle tissue, as they are now left in the free and active state.
The most common use of mesterolone in bodybuilding however is as an anti-estrogen. It acts as an anti-aromatase agent, preventing or slowing the conversion of androgens to estrogen. In this author's opinion, an anti-aromatase is much more useful than a simple estrogen blocker such as Tamoxifen , as it is dealing with the cause of estrogen buildup rather than just treating the symptoms of its negative effects. However, many athletes do use mesterolone and tamoxifen concurrently for a double-headed defense against estrogen, as any newly converted estrogen that was missed by the mesterolone is block at target sites by the tamoxifen.
Mesterolone is often added to the steroid users pre-contest array for its low estrogen/high androgenicity, which does well to balance out the more anabolic and less androgenic compounds such as Stanozolol , Oxandrolone and Methenolone. The high androgen level from Mesterolone use bring with it an increase in muscle density and hardness due to the muscle fiber’s ability to draw in more fluid and nutrients.
This compound is well tolerated in males with side effects occurring very rarely with dosages kept at under 100mg daily. Obviously at higher dosages the excess androgens can bring about the normally associated side effects such as oily skin, acne, increased hair growth and accelerated male pattern balding. However, being a DHT derivative, mesterolone is well known for its affect on the male libido and sense of well being, which can only be a positive thing.
Mesterolone is not alpha-alkylated at the C-17 position, so removing any potential liver toxicity. It has in fact 1-methylated in structure as with Methenolone, which is termed the "safest" of all oral steroids , making it a minimal risk. Although C-17 alkylation does allow more of the parent compound to get into the blood, the 1-methylation leads to lower levels but still high enough to do a respectable job.
In women, Mesterolone had been shown to have dramatic effects on the contest ready physique due to the subtle shift in androgen/estrogen ratio and also by making for a promotive environment for fat loss, especially in the problematic hip and thigh areas. They must be careful however, as Mesterolone is a strong androgen making virilisation symptoms a problem such as clitoral enlargement, deepening of the voice, roughened skin texture and menstrual irregularities. This gives rise to most females staying at the 25mg daily dosage range for no more than 4 to 5 weeks at a time, possibly in combination with low dose Tamoxifen therapy for a synergistically greater effect with much less risk.
For men, a typical daily dosage is around the 50-100mg mark, which will be more than sufficient for moderate androgenic cycles to avoid estrogen related side effects. In VERY high dose, super androgen cycles, I would recommend adding moderate amounts of Tamoxifen Citrate and/or Clomiphene Citrate, rather than just upping the Mesterolone dosage.
MENS SUGGESTED DOSAGE: 50-100mg daily when taken as a sole anti-estrogen or 25-50mg daily if taken in conjunction with Tamoxifen and/or Clomiphene.
WOMENS SUGGESTED DOSAGE: No more than 25mg daily for no longer than 4-6 weeks
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08-10-2004, 10:57 AM #10Senior Member
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08-10-2004, 11:30 AM #11
Sorry.. didn't mean to do that!!! guess i should have copied the info and posted it.. Hell i'd never buy from them !!!
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