Thread: need help with first cycle
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08-12-2004, 06:00 PM #1Associate Member
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need help with first cycle
my stats are
6'4
195
max bench is 295
age is 24
my goals are to bulk up up safely can anybody suggest anything to me also my plans were to take
deca qv300 1-8
sustanon 250 1-10
also nalv 20 mg. ed
and for pct. clomid maybe...
if anybody disagrees with this and has a better suggestion hit me up thanksLast edited by BOSTONBEATDOWNS; 08-12-2004 at 06:03 PM. Reason: age
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08-12-2004, 06:15 PM #2
you may need some more research man. That deca with only 250mg test is going to make you limp as can be. Splil the sust eod to go 500mg test if you can. First cycle you may just want to skip the deca and do test only. If you decide to keep the deca for more overall gains then make sure you run more than 250 sust. Thats not enough. Also, "clomid maybe" is a no-no. Run the clomid indefinitely
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08-12-2004, 06:23 PM #3
Read some more, and aquire a little more knowledge...
Within a month you will realize that this cycle sucks, and you will be glad you didnt do it. You can lean for your mistakes if you like, but trust me, its better to lean from others mistakes. Keep researching, ask the right questions and in no time you'll have enough knowledge to set up a nice first cycle. Good luck Bro.
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08-12-2004, 06:29 PM #4Originally Posted by Johnnystick77
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08-12-2004, 06:33 PM #5
Forever, and with levitra if you run more deca than test.
Run the clomid definitely.
Sorry about the typo i thought i was in the retarted forum.
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08-12-2004, 06:35 PM #6
I suggest looking in to Test Enanthate or Cypionate . That will be much easier for you to run for a first cycle. Run 400-500mg of test a week and like was said before I'd suggest not touching the deca yet. Just because it causes it's own form of gyno and if you don't know if your prone to test gyno and you get gyno while running both then who knows which caused it. They each have their own treatments so that's a problem and I suggest finding out if your gyno prone from test alone first. Run Nolva @ 10mg ED through the cycle, 20mg ED through PCT. And Definitely run Clomid for PCT. Not forever though.
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08-12-2004, 06:37 PM #7Originally Posted by Johnnystick77
If we had a retarded forum I would suggest we spell it that way.
Sorry.
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08-12-2004, 06:43 PM #8
oh man, no more herb for me. evidence of brain damage right here.
LMFAO
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08-12-2004, 06:46 PM #9Originally Posted by Johnnystick77
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Originally Posted by Johnnystick77
thanks for the suggestions, what did you take on your fist cycle if you dont mind me asking... i havent yet ordered my gear from my source...
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Originally Posted by ECoastVIP
thanks for the suggestions maybe i will just do that maybe a test cyionate with some equipose. but i will do more homework...
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08-12-2004, 06:51 PM #12
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Originally Posted by detroit
thanks i will...
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08-12-2004, 07:01 PM #14
I've never ran Deca , but I've seen enough first cycles that had both and turned out good to think it can be done safely. I would suggest running a single ester test, I love Enanthate . If you take proper anti-e's this is supposed to be a very safe cycle. Here's you go, handed to you on a silver platter:
Week 1-12 Test E @ 400-500mg wk
Week 1-10 Deca @ 300mg wk
Week 1-13 Nolva @ 10mg ed
Week 1-16 Vitamin B6 @ 200mg ed
Week 14-16 Nolva @ 20mg ed
Week 14-16 Clomid @ 100mg ed
I'd stop the Deca at week 10 to help with a faster recovery. PM me if you have any more questions bro.
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08-12-2004, 07:02 PM #15Originally Posted by dieseL atC
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08-12-2004, 07:06 PM #16Originally Posted by ECoastVIP
Week 1-12 Test E @ 400-500mg wk
Week 1-10 EQ @ 400mg wk
Week 1-13 Nolva @ 10mg ed
Week 1-16 Vitamin B6 @ 200mg ed
Week 14-16 Nolva @ 20mg ed
Week 14-16 Clomid @ 100mg ed
If you really want to run Deca though, go with my previous recommendation.
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08-12-2004, 07:11 PM #17
Just to lay it out the same.
Test Enanthate 500mg EW shot Mon and Thu weeks 1-14
EQ 400mg EW shot Mon and Thu weeks 1-12
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08-12-2004, 07:15 PM #18Originally Posted by dieseL atC
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08-12-2004, 07:42 PM #19
A good first cycle would be test e @ 250mg e4d for 10-12 weeks.....10mg nolva ed...then proper pct 2 wks after last inject.
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08-12-2004, 08:30 PM #20Originally Posted by bornbad71
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08-13-2004, 10:02 AM #21Junior Member
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Originally Posted by Johnnystick77
You could be taking a gram of deca and 250mg of test and get your **** up, thats retarded saying that man, If you have 250mg of freefloating test, how are you going to say it will destroy his drive. Deca only shuts down you HPTA not your sythesized test.
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08-13-2004, 10:21 AM #22Originally Posted by Roadisafunnyword
For a first cycle go with just test/500 week should be more then enough. I grew like a fukin roach on 100mg/week on my first cycle. Went up 36 lbs in 10 weeks while eating like a maniac. Or u could throw a little Eq in there. I personally dont like Deca ...
Good luck........
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08-13-2004, 02:11 PM #23Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Johnnystick77
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test 400 dk 10ml
teston qv 200 cypionate 10ml
testosterona 4l/a 250mg 10ml
testosterona bv 100 10ml
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08-13-2004, 02:14 PM #24Associate Member
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Originally Posted by detroit
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teston qv 200 cypionate 10ml 80
testosterona 4l/a 250mg 10ml 110
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testosterona bv 200 10ml 70
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