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can i take nolvadex and proviron and clomid on an empty stomach or should i take it after a meal?
a cycle like this
wk 1-10 test ent 400mg/wk
wk 1-11 nolva 10mg/dy
wk 12-15 clomid (dy1, dy2-11, dy12-21)
wk 12-15 nolva 20mg/dy
1* will the nolva alone keep my water retention low?
2* or i should take proviron 25mg/dy wk1-10 to keep it low?
do this:
wk 1-10 test ent 400mg/wk (but if u have 250mg/ml just shoot 250mg e4d, that will be 450-460mg/wk)
wk 1-12 nolva 10mg/dy
wk 1-12 proviron 50mg/dy
wk 13-15 clomid (dy1, dy2-11, dy12-21)
wk 13-15 nolva 20mg/dy
note that pct starts 2 wks after your last test enanth inj. so if u finish your test on wk 10, then u have to wait 2 wks (11 and 12) adn only after that u start your pct (wk 13-14 and 15).
proviron is best if used @ 50mg ed... and im sure about it coz i wanted to use it too @ 25mg ed but all the expert here told me to go with 50!
ciao
the italian said it right......the perfect first cycle...JMHOQuote:
Originally Posted by fabry
Farby laid the cycle out very well for you..... and def go with 50mg of Proviron ED.Quote:
Originally Posted by smackdown
Nolva will keep bloat down but doesn't work as well as an AI like l-dex, femeral, proviron.......... Use both nolva and an AI and you are set...... and the water should be minimal.
the italian said it right......the perfect first cycle...JMHOQuote:
Originally Posted by fabry
[QUOTE=fabry]do this:
wk 1-10 test ent 400mg/wk (but if u have 250mg/ml just shoot 250mg e4d, that will be 450-460mg/wk)
wk 1-12 nolva 10mg/dy
wk 1-12 proviron 50mg/dy
wk 13-15 clomid (dy1, dy2-11, dy12-21)
wk 13-15 nolva 20mg/dy
note that pct starts 2 wks after your last test enanth inj. so if u finish your test on wk 10, then u have to wait 2 wks (11 and 12) adn only after that u start your pct (wk 13-14 and 15).
proviron is best if used @ 50mg ed... and im sure about it coz i wanted to use it too @ 25mg ed but all the expert here told me to go with 50!
ciao[/QUOT
if i were u though ,i would start the ( 50mgs proviron+10 mgs of nolva )/day a week prior of the week i start the test........a very wise and usefull trick mudman always proposes.
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Originally Posted by TheMudMan
what does AI stand for? thanx :)
can i take nolva and provi with an empty stomach???
ai? check this:
http://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-cycle-therapy/94545-serm-ai-definition.html
i split prov e12hrs (morning - evening) and take nolva before bed.
dont think it makes difference if with or without meals!
check this "variant" if u like. this is for "not patient" (i hope this is the correct word in english... i mean people that cannot wait for something to happen) people like me and lots of us:
!!!wk 1-4 prop 75mg ed or 150 eod --> this will make your cycle "start" (kickin) sooner!!!
wk 1-10 test ent 400-450mg/wk
!!!wk 11-12 prop (same as 1-4)!!!
wk 1-12 nolva 10mg/dy
wk 1-12 proviron 50mg/dy
wk 13-15 clomid (dy1, dy2-11, dy12-21)
wk 13-15 nolva 20mg/dy
note:
pct start 2 wks after last enanth shot and/or 3 days after your last prop shot.
i did a test/dbol cycle as first cycle but if i could do it again, id go with this one...