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    This is what my next cycle is gonna look like pls anyone feel free to critique it and flame it to hell if you want.... I want your honest opinion on this... this is what I have finally come up with...im hoping to put on some LBM with this cycle,clean eating, proper training and rest!

    LBM Cycle:
    W1-4 Dianabol Tabs 25mg (2.5x10mg)
    W5-13 Liquid Anavar 50mg/ED
    W1-13 Test Prop 1ccx100mg/ED
    W4-13 Winstrol Tabs 1x50mg/ED
    W1-13 Trenbolone Acetate 1ccx75mg/ED
    W1-13 Liquid Nolvadex 10mg/ED
    W1-13 Liqui-dex .25mg/ED

    PCT:
    Classic Clomid Cycle (300/100/50)
    Liqui-dex boosted to .50mg
    Liquid Nolvadex boosted to 20mg

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    You are running two 17aa's togeteher.... not smart. Space them out about 4 weeks apart or drop one.

    The dbol is too low 40mg ED will be good.

    Don't run tren up to PCT it will could hinder recovery..... Always run test a few weeks past tren.
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    this is the only way my cycle will work without giving lactation I am going to use many Liver protectants so could it still work.... I will decrese tren by 2 weeks....and I dont want huge back pumps so I might bump d-bol to 30 but im not sure about 40-50!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelis
    This is what my next cycle is gonna look like pls anyone feel free to critique it and flame it to hell if you want.... I want your honest opinion on this... this is what I have finally come up with...im hoping to put on some LBM with this cycle,clean eating, proper training and rest!

    LBM Cycle:
    W1-4 Dianabol Tabs 25mg (2.5x10mg) DROP THIS
    W5-13 Liquid Anavar 50mg/ED
    W1-13 Test Prop 1ccx100mg/ED
    W4-13 Winstrol Tabs 1x50mg/ED DROP THIS
    W1-13 Trenbolone Acetate 1ccx75mg/ED END THIS AT WEEK 10
    W1-13 Liquid Nolvadex 10mg/ED
    W1-13 Liqui-dex .25mg/ED
    ADD WK 1-13 200MG B6 ED
    PCT:
    Classic Clomid Cycle (300/100/50)
    Liqui-dex boosted to .50mg DROP THIS............(JMO)
    Liquid Nolvadex boosted to 20mg
    see caps in quote

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    I was also thinking that....lose the Dianabol .
    I would keep the Winstrol though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelis
    this is the only way my cycle will work without giving lactation I am going to use many Liver protectants so could it still work.... I will decrese tren by 2 weeks....and I dont want huge back pumps so I might bump d-bol to 30 but im not sure about 40-50!
    What do you mean without lactation....... anavar and winny will not keep prolactin levels low...... B6, dostinex.... these will do that for you.

    2 17aa's are not wise even with liver protectants...... JMO..... plus you have the d-bol earlier in the cycle so that's 3 17aa's through the cycle.

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    i agree with everyone else lose the dbol . with the prop you won;t need the dbol as a jump. You could run the var then in the beginning and then the winny at the end. maybe run the var 1-4 and then the winny 9-13 that way you give your liver a 5 week break. also as pointed out add b6 for prolactin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelis
    this is the only way my cycle will work without giving lactation I am going to use many Liver protectants so could it still work....


    OTC liver "protectants" are a horrid attempt to counteract the negatives of a 17AA compound, let alone 3 of them.

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    I agree with all you guys on this with splitting the 17aa's but do you really need a 4-5 week gap between each (win & var) since var is much more mild and less harsh on liver then any other 17aa?? or am i way off??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelis
    This is what my next cycle is gonna look like pls anyone feel free to critique it and flame it to hell if you want.... I want your honest opinion on this... this is what I have finally come up with...im hoping to put on some LBM with this cycle,clean eating, proper training and rest!

    LBM Cycle:
    W1-4 Dianabol Tabs 25mg (2.5x10mg)
    W5-13 Liquid Anavar 50mg/ED
    W1-13 Test Prop 1ccx100mg/ED
    W4-13 Winstrol Tabs 1x50mg/ED
    W1-13 Trenbolone Acetate 1ccx75mg/ED
    W1-13 Liquid Nolvadex 10mg/ED
    W1-13 Liqui-dex .25mg/ED

    PCT:
    Classic Clomid Cycle (300/100/50)
    Liqui-dex boosted to .50mg
    Liquid Nolvadex boosted to 20mg
    Why not drop the Dbol and Winny and run Var all the way through? I mean, it will cause just as much. And you say you are looking for LBM, so that would be my choice if it were me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyHitter
    I agree with all you guys on this with splitting the 17aa's but do you really need a 4-5 week gap between each (win & var) since var is much more mild and less harsh on liver then any other 17aa?? or am i way off??
    I would wait at least 4 weeks to run another 17aa........ Var may be very mild but the other 2 are not. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelis
    this is the only way my cycle will work without giving lactation I am going to use many
    Huh? I don't understand what you're saying here.

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    you know better than me Mud! I was planning my next cyc and want to include var and winny.... thanks!

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    I agree with all of the above...The D-bol really isn't necessary, since you're using prop.

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