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08-18-2004, 12:28 PM
Pheedno

Pheedno's next one

Well it's about that time to start hit'n it hard again. I'll be starting a new cycle in mid Sept. Duration is unknown so below you'll just find drugs and doses

400mg Enan E3D
125mg Tren ED
300mg Deca E3D

I'll be going 15wks before my first cruise of 250mg Enan E5D, every cruise thereafter will occur every 12wks

500ius HCG - Every Mon/Tues(up to PCT)
(.5mg L-dex + 10mg Nolva) EOD
200mg B6 ED
20mg Accutane ED
12.5mcg T3 ED
2mg Finasteride ED
20mg policosinal ED

A couple of experiments on this one so my blood work is going back to E3W. In addition to the accutane, I'm starting the nolva dose at 5mg a day and will phase it out cmpletely at an unknown point to gauge whether the poli can sustain a healthy lipid profile.
I also told myself I wasn't going to run deca again but given my recent elbow injuries, I thought it be good to add a bit for joints. While pondering the deca administration I figured what the hell, might as well use enough for a set duration to provide benefits to anabolism. I'll only be running the above deca dose for 15wks, then it will be backed down to 150mg E6D.

I'm expecting this cycle to last untill next July, then I'll comprise a cycle and diet to aid in comp. prep(with the help of a couple experienced fellows)
08-18-2004, 12:31 PM
w_rballs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pheedno

Well it's about that time to start hit'n it hard again. I'll be starting a new cycle in mid Sept. Duration is unknown so below you'll just find drugs and doses

400mg Enan E3D
125mg Tren ED
300mg Deca E3D

I'll be going 15wks before my first cruise of 250mg Enan E5D, every cruise thereafter will occur every 12wks

500ius HCG - Every Mon/Tues(up to PCT)
(.5mg L-dex + 10mg Nolva) EOD
200mg B6 ED
20mg Accutane ED
12.5mcg T3 ED
2mg Finasteride ED
20mg policosinal ED

A couple of experiments on this one so my blood work is going back to E3W. In addition to the accutane, I'm starting the nolva dose at 5mg a day and will phase it out cmpletely at an unknown point to gauge whether the poli can sustain a healthy lipid profile.
I also told myself I wasn't going to run deca again but given my recent elbow injuries, I thought it be good to add a bit for joints. While pondering the deca administration I figured what the hell, might as well use enough for a set duration to provide benefits to anabolism. I'll only be running the above deca dose for 15wks, then it will be backed down to 150mg E6D.

I'm expecting this cycle to last untill next July, then I'll comprise a cycle and diet to aid in comp. prep(with the help of a couple experienced fellows)

do u think with that much deca and tren combines 200mg b6/ed is gonna be enough to help with the progesterone. also is your test levels high enough to combat all the prolactin that is gonna be produced from the tren/deca?
08-18-2004, 12:32 PM
Mr. Sparkle

125mg of tren sheesh I couldnt handle the sides... and its nice to see you up that test bro!! a gram a week is fun :D
Also are you ever going to use IGF or slin? just wondering what you thought about it?
08-18-2004, 12:34 PM
Mr. Sparkle

Quote:

Originally Posted by w_rballs

do u think with that much deca and tren combines 200mg b6/ed is gonna be enough to help with the progesterone. also is your test levels high enough to combat all the prolactin that is gonna be produced from the tren/deca?

I dont want to answer for him... but if I remember correctly he did tren at 100mg ED and test E 250 E3D and he said he had no problems at all with it.
08-18-2004, 12:39 PM
cpt steele

wballs this almost looks familliar doesnt it :) I didnt realize you could run accutane like that. 900mg of deca should deffinately get it done, cool looking cycle bro. When I go to cruise mode I am going to run 50mg of proviron to help with upregulating the androgen recptors. Oh and what is this 20mg policosinal ED?
08-18-2004, 12:46 PM
TheMudMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpt steele

wballs this almost looks familliar doesnt it :) I didnt realize you could run accutane like that. 900mg of deca should deffinately get it done, cool looking cycle bro. When I go to cruise mode I am going to run 50mg of proviron to help with upregulating the androgen recptors. Oh and what is this 20mg policosinal ED?

It helps regulate cholesterol...... it does it by keeping cholesterol from forming in the liver.......... or something along those lines.
08-18-2004, 12:48 PM
w_rballs

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpt steele

wballs this almost looks familliar doesnt it :) I didnt realize you could run accutane like that. 900mg of deca should deffinately get it done, cool looking cycle bro. When I go to cruise mode I am going to run 50mg of proviron to help with upregulating the androgen recptors. Oh and what is this 20mg policosinal ED?

just a little steele. i swear ive seen it somewhere before :unsure:

:lol:
08-18-2004, 12:50 PM
1-Cent

Running full out Tren and Deca isn't so bad afterall?
08-18-2004, 01:32 PM
KAEW44

does increasing the finasteride to 2mg increase the DHT blocking?
08-18-2004, 02:12 PM
Pheedno

Quote:

Originally Posted by w_rballs

do u think with that much deca and tren combines 200mg b6/ed is gonna be enough to help with the progesterone. also is your test levels high enough to combat all the prolactin that is gonna be produced from the tren/deca?

If the b6 needs to be raised to 300mg then I'll do so, but I've ran tren above test almost everytime without problems

As for progesterone, its not really a concern once steady state is reached
The PR has two isoforms; the A and B. PR-B mediates stimulatory effects of progestins; the PR-A which is bound with progestins or anti-progestins inhibits PR-B, and PR-A is dominant. The response to progesterone is determined by the relative expression of the two isoforms.

Now, their is a direct relationship between the PR isoforms and steroid concentrations. The direct relationship suggests high progesterone concentrations, but this will induce the expression of PR-A, which represses transcription of PR-B, which in turn supresses PR function and progestin effect
With initial administration, I could see an expression of PR-B but a rapid rise in PR-A will ultimately supress the function of the PR. I would suggest that you'd need a high ratio of the two before concerns, and this is a bit more of a possiblity with the begining of administration.
08-18-2004, 02:15 PM
Pheedno

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpt steele

Oh and what is this 20mg policosinal ED?

http://substance.altmedangel.com/statnalt.htm
08-18-2004, 02:32 PM
w_rballs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pheedno

If the b6 needs to be raised to 300mg then I'll do so, but I've ran tren above test almost everytime without problems

As for progesterone, its not really a concern once steady state is reached
The PR has two isoforms; the A and B. PR-B mediates stimulatory effects of progestins; the PR-A which is bound with progestins or anti-progestins inhibits PR-B, and PR-A is dominant. The response to progesterone is determined by the relative expression of the two isoforms.

Now, their is a direct relationship between the PR isoforms and steroid concentrations. The direct relationship suggests high progesterone concentrations, but this will induce the expression of PR-A, which represses transcription of PR-B, which in turn supresses PR function and progestin effect
With initial administration, I could see an expression of PR-B but a rapid rise in PR-A will ultimately supress the function of the PR. I would suggest that you'd need a high ratio of the two before concerns, and this is a bit more of a possiblity with the begining of administration.

i see. im real sensitive to prolactin and progesterone so that is why i asked. but hey u know what works so keep it up
08-18-2004, 02:41 PM
Mr. Sparkle

Pheed what about IGF or slin any views on using those compounds?
08-18-2004, 02:57 PM
limppimp85204

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pheedno

500ius HCG - Every Mon/Tues(up to PCT)
(.5mg L-dex + 10mg Nolva) EOD
200mg B6 ED
20mg Accutane ED
12.5mcg T3 ED
2mg Finasteride ED
20mg policosinal ED

How does one get ahold of the policosinal? Is it legal?
08-18-2004, 03:03 PM
Pheedno

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle

Pheed what about IGF or slin any views on using those compounds?

Babysteps bro. I'll be utilizing GH when I get into my 30s and insulin is a possibility at some time. I've thought about using it in my cruising periods
08-18-2004, 03:04 PM
Mr. Sparkle

True but what about IGF same thing?
08-18-2004, 03:21 PM
Pheedno

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle

True but what about IGF same thing?

Same goes as with GH. At 24, I don't see a need
08-18-2004, 03:24 PM
956Vette

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pheedno

Same goes as with GH. At 24, I don't see a need

Wow, i had thought you were in your late 20s! Props to you :lift:
Best of luck with this go around!
08-18-2004, 08:42 PM
limppimp85204

Quote:

Originally Posted by limppimp85204

How does one get ahold of the policosinal? Is it legal?

bump for this...
08-18-2004, 08:52 PM
Billy_Bathgate

good stuff pheed...ill be starting a very similar one at a similar time
08-18-2004, 08:57 PM
1-Cent

I'm still interested in how hes pulling off Tren and Deca at a moderate dose of 600mg /week. Its a great combo in theory, I mean the insane strength of tren with the tendon strengthening and joint lubing of deca, its the shut down that ruins it (so I hear). Is there some way around this? Please share :wg:
08-18-2004, 09:42 PM
chicamahomico

Do you plan on taking the accutane preemptively or just have some on hand as a precautionary measure?
08-19-2004, 01:21 AM
sd11

How long do you plan on cruising and are you running the nolva, ldex, and hcg alongside the enanthate?
08-19-2004, 01:50 AM
Da Bull

Good luck on the cycle bro...looks good!!

~DB
08-19-2004, 06:17 AM
mass junkie

Good luck Pheedster
08-21-2004, 07:22 AM
Pheedno

I've already started the accutane at 40mg and will drop to 20 after a month.

cent- HCG will be used throughout the cycle to keep the testes in optimal size so that they are ready when recovery is attempted. Also, I aways run test way out past the other compounds so in actuallity, it will be cycle length and not the compounds wch will strain recovery.

sd- My cruises will be 4wks in length and the compounds you listed will be used alongside the AAS