major liver pains!

**latinmuscle** · 08-18-2004, 04:56 PM

currently on 2nd cycle of test enan, deca and Adrol
220lbs
5'10
16%bf
Starting to get some major aches! I think its the liver. Is there anything i can do to reduce pain.

week 1-13 test 500mg
week 1-12 deca 400mg
week 1-4 100mg of drol

thanks guys any advice is appreciated.

**1badcamaro** · 08-18-2004, 04:57 PM

you should more than likely go see the doctor, and discontinue usage for now...........jmo

**Pale Horse** · 08-18-2004, 05:06 PM

where does it hurt? please describe.

**latinmuscle** · 08-18-2004, 05:09 PM

see thats the thing i'm not even sure if its my liver. It mught be my lower back.I did legs on sunday and woke up soar on monday and tues. but to answer your quest its on my lower back where the cheeks meet the back

**MBaraso** · 08-18-2004, 05:11 PM

It's most likely the pumps your getting from the drol.
Very common.

**latinmuscle** · 08-18-2004, 05:12 PM

now thats what i wanted to hear. whewww. thanks guys!

***Pheedno*** · 08-18-2004, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by MBaraso

It's most likely the pumps your getting from the drol.
Very common.

Agreed

**Pale Horse** · 08-18-2004, 05:13 PM

Agreed if it were liver pains you would feel it mostly in the right front side right under your rib cage about half way up.

**latinmuscle** · 08-18-2004, 05:13 PM

kinda also thinking it might of been the pumps. thanks

**latinmuscle** · 08-18-2004, 05:14 PM

i love this site! I swear its a life saver!

**TRIBOL** · 08-18-2004, 05:20 PM

could be your kidneys, might want to check it out though IMO.

TrIBOL

**TRIBOL** · 08-18-2004, 05:21 PM

my bad, i didnt read your last post, if its where the checks meet your lower back than its not your kidneys.

TrIBOL

**fatfireman** · 08-18-2004, 07:29 PM

Yo lay on you back and run your fingers up your rib cage then try pressing up under you ribs on your right side iff your pain increases your liver could be swollen and tender no pain doesn't mean your clear its just another way to check. Doctor is your safest bet

**needle** · 08-18-2004, 08:55 PM

MOST LIKEY IT THE drol causing intense muscle spasms or back pumps.
Just to let you know you dont feel PAINS in your "LIVER OR KIDNEYS " there is actually know indicator as far as pain indicating- damage of the kidneys and liver.
The only signs are blood in the #1urine yellowing of the feet and hands, and a sudden increase of water retention not like water gains but like a jump of 20 pounds or more in 1 week!!!
LATIN MUSCLE if you care to know more just pm me! I spent 2 weeks in the hospital do to dbol usage!!!!
HOPE I HELPED!!!

**Dally** · 08-18-2004, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by needle

MOST LIKEY IT THE drol causing intense muscle spasms or back pumps.
Just to let you know you dont feel PAINS in your "LIVER OR KIDNEYS " there is actually know indicator as far as pain indicating- damage of the kidneys and liver.
The only signs are blood in the #1urine yellowing of the feet and hands, and a sudden increase of water retention not like water gains but like a jump of 20 pounds or more in 1 week!!!
LATIN MUSCLE if you care to know more just pm me! I spent 2 weeks in the hospital do to dbol usage!!!!
HOPE I HELPED!!!

For your 100th post there buddy you really HOSED up.....for your information, one of my livers is killin me right now!!

**needle** · 08-19-2004, 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by Dally

For your 100th post there buddy you really HOSED up.....for your information, one of my livers is killin me right now!!

Wow thats what i like about this site you alwyas have a person that has to shoot his mouth off!!!!!
Oh no i have a 100 posts sorry to all. I DONT not live on the internet. I dont claim to know tons of info and i am somewhat knew into the world OF AAS>
All i can say is i was in the hospital for 2 weeks AND alomost DIed do to the usage of "dbol " and the way my body reacted to it!
I had acute kidney faliure and almost lost 1 kindey and my liver was in real bad shape also!!
I didnt really need to get into that, but some IDIOT and yes your a smart ass that has know idea what i went through!!! SO smart back make comments and run your mouth about me for trying to help someone out before they could get hurt....
Nothing personal but this site if for the EDUCATING of AAS and to help people like, "us" better understand what we are doing to our bodys!!
ANd the reason i said what i said was that you feel know damage to your kidneys or liver!!! I thought the same thing as you all did OOOO ahhh my back hurts im on ANNNY so it must be my kidneys not true at all. In most cases you will BE F***ed up so bad and your kidenys can still function as low as 40% of normal, or one or the other will pick up the slac, enough of that anyways!!!!
I will back this up 100%
PLease lets not turn this into a trash talking post!!!
THANKS

**KAEW44** · 08-19-2004, 02:04 AM

i am not on anything at all except protein shakes and i get that pain in the lower back when i wake up in the morning too..it goes away shortly after waking up though....

**paulastone** · 08-19-2004, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by 1victor

Agreed if it were liver pains you would feel it mostly in the right front side right under your rib cage about half way up.

Sorry my friend but this is so wrong and incorrect!!!
PEOPLE!! you do not and will not feel pain from liver damage!! you have no nerves in the liver and that will make you have no pain!
Think about it for a second! all the bums downtown would be all in pain and crying from liver pain??? makes no sense. so if your liver is fu cked you will have more likely "jaunice" and feel week but you guys need to realise that to prevent this from happening, you need to do blood work!
Be safe everyone and

**Dally** · 08-19-2004, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by needle

Wow thats what i like about this site you alwyas have a person that has to shoot his mouth off!!!!!
Oh no i have a 100 posts sorry to all. I DONT not live on the internet. I dont claim to know tons of info and i am somewhat knew into the world OF AAS>
All i can say is i was in the hospital for 2 weeks AND alomost DIed do to the usage of "dbol " and the way my body reacted to it!
I had acute kidney faliure and almost lost 1 kindey and my liver was in real bad shape also!!
I didnt really need to get into that, but some IDIOT and yes your a smart ass that has know idea what i went through!!! SO smart back make comments and run your mouth about me for trying to help someone out before they could get hurt....
Nothing personal but this site if for the EDUCATING of AAS and to help people like, "us" better understand what we are doing to our bodys!!
ANd the reason i said what i said was that you feel know damage to your kidneys or liver!!! I thought the same thing as you all did OOOO ahhh my back hurts im on ANNNY so it must be my kidneys not true at all. In most cases you will BE F***ed up so bad and your kidenys can still function as low as 40% of normal, or one or the other will pick up the slac, enough of that anyways!!!!
I will back this up 100%
PLease lets not turn this into a trash talking post!!!
THANKS

HAAHAHAH OMG hahahahahha

DUDE... HAHAHHA OMG !!!

Holy F*ck DUDE, I WAS TOTALLY JOKING ! .. you may have been able to tell by me saying ONE OF MY LIVERS (as in 2 livers) is SORE.

I thought you woulda caught on by sayin you only have ONE LIVER!

ahhahah

and then the laughing faces ...

cman man, I wont hold it against ya at all, but that was a joke.

GLAD YA MADE IT MAN.

Take care.

**Pale Horse** · 08-19-2004, 12:30 PM

While your liver won't transmit pain the inflammation will cause pressure on your rib cage which you will feel on your right side which will make that area tender. Do you guts wanna challenge that one?

Last year they though I had cancer my liver was massive and I had pains in the right side from it.

**Pale Horse** · 08-19-2004, 12:31 PM

Uhm....... I meant guys not guts.

**paulastone** · 08-19-2004, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by 1victor

While your liver won't transmit pain the inflammation will cause pressure on your rib cage which you will feel on your right side which will make that area tender. Do you guts wanna challenge that one?

Last year they though I had cancer my liver was massive and I had pains in the right side from it.

I chalange you if you supply some dbol , abombs and halo

**Pale Horse** · 08-19-2004, 12:55 PM

Only if you eat them each at 200mg 3 x a day!

**paulastone** · 08-19-2004, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by 1victor

Only if you eat them each at 200mg 3 x a day!

ok wish me luck

**Pale Horse** · 08-19-2004, 01:54 PM

I'll be there for ya when the lights go out Bro!

**paulastone** · 08-19-2004, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by 1victor

I'll be there for ya when the lights go out Bro!

can i add some winny too??

**Pale Horse** · 08-19-2004, 01:58 PM

Hey man since it will be your last cycle the sky is the limit!

**maddog<sco>** · 08-19-2004, 02:01 PM

same cycle im on dude i had to stop the drol i could hardy walk m8
that was a week and a half ago now im tip top. after 3 days it started to ease. also keep up the milk thistle or some liver detox .

good luck

**paulastone** · 08-19-2004, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by 1victor

Hey man since it will be your last cycle the sky is the limit!

can i drink winny??

ok i'm done

**needle** · 08-19-2004, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by Dally

HAAHAHAH OMG hahahahahha

DUDE... HAHAHHA OMG !!!

Holy F*ck DUDE, I WAS TOTALLY JOKING ! .. you may have been able to tell by me saying ONE OF MY LIVERS (as in 2 livers) is SORE.

I thought you woulda caught on by sayin you only have ONE LIVER!

ahhahah

and then the laughing faces ...

cman man, I wont hold it against ya at all, but that was a joke.

GLAD YA MADE IT MAN.

Take care.

MY BAD MAN
I agree that if your liver was swollen it could cause pain but do you know how big that would have to be to cause that much pressure!!! My point exactly in your rib cage you would feel the pressure POSSIBLY!!! LOL thats in the area of your vital organs.

LAST TIME I CHECKED I didnt know your kidneys and liver were in lower bacK
lol