How many of you...

**Jack87** · 08-25-2004, 08:02 AM

Just continue to stay on way past what you planned?

Ran my bulking phase for about 15 weeks and made nice

gains in size and then went right into my cutting phase

which has been going pretty good... Then I decided to

bump my test dose back up and add winstrol to the mix

since the T3 really has my muscle feeling so flat and also

the reduced calories and lower carbs doesn't help...

I hate coming off a cycle, get depressed usually and hate

the feeling when your hormones finally crash and hit bottom...

I'd stay on forever if i could, even though I'm sick of sticking

myself at this point... sucks trying to jab a pin thru scar tissue...

how many of you honestly stay on a small maintenance dose

of 200mg of test per week even when you're suppose to be off?

**Da Bull** · 08-25-2004, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by buff87

of 200mg of test per week even when you're suppose to be off?

I'm seriously considering it come next year.I'm at the age where 200 mgs will do me good.That's very inexpensive to run..and far cheaper than going through HRT with a doc,and having him shut you down with 100 mgs every 2 weeks.I prefer to be my on HRT doctor.

**Z-Ro** · 08-25-2004, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by buff87

Just continue to stay on way past what you planned?

Ran my bulking phase for about 15 weeks and made nice

gains in size and then went right into my cutting phase

which has been going pretty good... Then I decided to

bump my test dose back up and add winstrol to the mix

since the T3 really has my muscle feeling so flat and also

the reduced calories and lower carbs doesn't help...

I hate coming off a cycle, get depressed usually and hate

the feeling when your hormones finally crash and hit bottom...

I'd stay on forever if i could, even though I'm sick of sticking

myself at this point... sucks trying to jab a pin thru scar tissue...

how many of you honestly stay on a small maintenance dose

of 200mg of test per week even when you're suppose to be off?

i agree with you too bro, its a good feeling, i told myself that if i stay on longer that what i've planned, that i'm going to get all my blood levels checked and see how they come out, and then continue on, and periodicaly have tests run for saftey reasons

**Jack87** · 08-25-2004, 08:34 AM

I'm gettin up there too... Trust me when I come off now I know
it and it sucks... I'm just wondering what the long term effects
will be years down the road...

Originally Posted by Da Bull

I'm seriously considering it come next year.I'm at the age where 200 mgs will do me good.That's very inexpensive to run..and far cheaper than going through HRT with a doc,and having him shut you down with 100 mgs every 2 weeks.I prefer to be my on HRT doctor.

**Da Bull** · 08-25-2004, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by buff87

I'm gettin up there too... Trust me when I come off now I know
it and it sucks... I'm just wondering what the long term effects
will be years down the road...

No one really knows the long term effects of HRT.My line of thought is,the older you get,the more beneficial a small dose of test will be.I really can't see it doing any harm.A higher dose would have some negetive effects I'm sure.

**Blown_SC** · 08-25-2004, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by Da Bull

I'm seriously considering it come next year.I'm at the age where 200 mgs will do me good.

Is there an age where your test levels level off (stop decreasing)?
Or do your test levels keep decreasing as time passes (forever)...
Also, at what age do you feel is too old to use even the low dose of test you and Buff mentioned?
Thanks.

**trailrider38** · 08-25-2004, 09:36 AM

Im with you buff, six months and counting.... im actually fearfull of coming off but at the same time tired of sticking myself....

**Da Bull** · 08-25-2004, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Blown_SC

Is there an age where your test levels level off (stop decreasing)?
Or do your test levels keep decreasing as time passes (forever)...
Also, at what age do you feel is too old to use even the low dose of test you and Buff mentioned?
Thanks.

At 45 they plummet heavily.They obviously start to drop off before that,but you can still make small gains in your early 40's naturally.After 45 it's a struggle just to hold on to mass.
I can't answer the 'how old is it question",but docs have patients in thier late 60's,early 70's on low dose Testosterone .

**Blown_SC** · 08-25-2004, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Da Bull

At 45 they plummet heavily.They obviously start to drop off before that,but you can still make small gains in your early 40's naturally.After 45 it's a struggle just to hold on to mass.
I can't answer the 'how old is it question",but docs have patients in thier late 60's,early 70's on low dose Testosterone.

Thank-you DB...

**BUYLONGTERM** · 08-25-2004, 10:03 AM

I'm defintely going to stay on all year round. For me, I've always had low levels, and I already have kids, so after I'm done with my cycle, I will continue to use 200mg EW. When I'm not on TEST, I'm a different person. I basically need Test to feel good.

**trailrider38** · 08-25-2004, 10:12 AM

you only live once, we all die, so why not feel good?

**Dmize9** · 08-25-2004, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by buylongterm

I'm defintely going to stay on all year round. For me, I've always had low levels, and I already have kids, so after I'm done with my cycle, I will continue to use 200mg EW. When I'm not on TEST, I'm a different person. I basically need Test to feel good.

When running a dose that low, do you continue to use Nolvafdex daily?