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    Suggestions to run with my Test E?

    Hi bro's, it's been a while!

    I'm going to be running a simple, 12week, 500mg/wk Test E cycle. I was going to just run the test alone but now I'm thinking maybe I should toss a little something extra while I'm at it.

    Any suggestions to aid in some decent, keepable gains? Nothing too harsh in terms of sides or safety please!

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    i would run dbol at 8 a day for 4 weeks to jump start your cycle.

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    gay, dont ever run test alone, Do TestE 500mg, and EQ 600mg(i prefer 800mg) per wk bro. That is a great simple cycle. EQ gets your apetite up and then you got the test to help to major building. Then you culd do like that fool said to and add some Dbol if ya want?? whats your cycle history like?

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    i would add some eq around 400mg a week.

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    I've done an EQ/Winny cycle before, (Yeah, no test, i know!) I gained close to 20 pounds and was fairly pleased. I'd like to stay away from EQ as it gave me some bad acne that stuck around for months until I got on some Accutane.

    Is there a way to run the Dbol and keep the bloat down?

    Thanks,

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    you can run Dbol at a lower dose i guess, try around 25mg a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixter
    I've done an EQ/Winny cycle before, (Yeah, no test, i know!) I gained close to 20 pounds and was fairly pleased. I'd like to stay away from EQ as it gave me some bad acne that stuck around for months until I got on some Accutane.

    Is there a way to run the Dbol and keep the bloat down?

    Thanks,

    Nix

    yeah run proviron 25mg a day and some nolva 10-20mg ED, that should help combat the bloat.

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    Ok so Test E with Dbol for the first 4 weeks sound ok? I've never looked into Dbol so I don't know dosage or anything... 30mg a day I seem to recall? Broken up into a couple dosages a day?

    I'll do a search.

    Nix

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    25mg is absolutley minimum. 30 mg is good for a first time user if this is your first cycle with dbol do 30mg, experienced user usually just use about 40mg, break up throughout the day however you feel, breakfast, lunch, dinner, whatever fits your schedule.

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    i would take all 30 mg about an hour before you lift. that worked great for me. nolva at 10 mg a day will help with the bloating.

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    d bol = bloat
    no getttin around it

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    Quote Originally Posted by dumblucky
    d bol = bloat
    no getttin around it

    Agree but wouldnt Arimidex control it or even prevent it also isn't cheap

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLEX~Ottawa
    Agree but wouldnt Arimidex control it or even prevent it also isn't cheap
    yea it would prevent it
    yea its not cheap


    IMO the only ting dbol does is fill you up with some size mostly water ..
    then with the test you should be runnin with it you try to keep the size that you gain off of it ..solidify the gains as it were
    so why take a anobolic that does a certain job then take another drug that limits the very purpose of it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLEX~Ottawa
    Agree but wouldnt Arimidex control it or even prevent it also isn't cheap
    yea it would prevent it
    yea its not cheap


    IMO the only ting dbol does is fill you up with some size mostly water ..
    then with the test you should be runnin with it you try to keep the size that you gain off of it ..solidify the gains as it were
    so why take a anobolic that does a certain job then take another drug that limits the very purpose of it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLEX~Ottawa
    Agree but wouldnt Arimidex control it or even prevent it also isn't cheap
    yea it would prevent it
    yea its not cheap


    IMO the only ting dbol does is fill you up with some size mostly water ..
    then with the test you should be runnin with it you try to keep the size that you gain off of it ..solidify the gains as it were
    so why take a anobolic that does a certain job then take another drug that limits the very purpose of it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLEX~Ottawa
    Agree but wouldnt Arimidex control it or even prevent it also isn't cheap
    yea it would prevent it
    yea its not cheap


    IMO the only ting dbol does is fill you up with some size mostly water ..
    then with the test you should be runnin with it you try to keep the size that you gain off of it ..solidify the gains as it were
    so why take a anobolic that does a certain job then take another drug that limits the very purpose of it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLEX~Ottawa
    Agree but wouldnt Arimidex control it or even prevent it also isn't cheap
    yea it would prevent it
    yea its not cheap


    IMO the only ting dbol does is fill you up with some size mostly water ..
    then with the test you should be runnin with it you try to keep the size that you gain off of it ..solidify the gains as it were
    so why take a anobolic that does a certain job then take another drug that limits the very purpose of it..

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    yea it would prevent it
    yea its not cheap


    IMO the only ting dbol does is fill you up with some size mostly water ..
    then with the test you should be runnin with it you try to keep the size that you gain off of it ..solidify the gains as it were
    so why take a anobolic that does a certain job then take another drug that limits the very purpose of it..

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    Horrible adivce... Take a portion an hour before you work out, thats fine. Taking it all at once wreaks havoc on your blood levels and is asking for sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by nathanw21
    i would take all 30 mg about an hour before you lift. that worked great for me. nolva at 10 mg a day will help with the bloating.

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    Adex isnt too expensive, from a research company you can get to about 80 cents per dose, and I use a dose EOD.

    Quote Originally Posted by FLEX~Ottawa
    Agree but wouldnt Arimidex control it or even prevent it also isn't cheap

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    EQ with that test

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    What about Deca or Fina?

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    Fina is your best friend....

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    Thumbs down ????????????/

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Slin
    gay, dont ever run test alone, Do TestE 500mg, and EQ 600mg(i prefer 800mg) per wk bro. That is a great simple cycle. EQ gets your apetite up and then you got the test to help to major building. Then you culd do like that fool said to and add some Dbol if ya want?? whats your cycle history like?

    Do you see something wrong with this ????? um yes

    YOU never run anything higher than test you should do test 500/ew and 400/ew of EQ

    then add some d-bol ???? you run dbol at the begining to jump start the cycle ,not trying to flame ya bro but rescearch befor u give BAD advice

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    yeah i typed that wrong i guess, i know dbol is for the beginning i was NOT telling him to add it later i was just saying i guess if you want dbol ya add that too. I and sure it might not be the best to run your other gear higher than test but i see nothing wrong with it. I simply wouldnt use EQ at anything less than 600mg, and if he doesnt want up to his test lvls fine he doesnt have to. I on the other hand just did a TestE and EQ cycle and ran TestE at 1g, and EQ at 800mg both pr wk. worked great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanw21
    i would run dbol at 8 a day for 4 weeks to jump start your cycle.

    uhhh 8 WHAT a day... pounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Slin
    I and sure it might not be the best to run your other gear higher than test but i see nothing wrong with it. I simply wouldnt use EQ at anything less than 600mg, and if he doesnt want up to his test lvls fine he doesnt have to. I on the other hand just did a TestE and EQ cycle and ran TestE at 1g, and EQ at 800mg both pr wk. worked great.
    the reason everyone says to run the test at least 100mg higher than everything else ,is so you do get a limp dick ,Something like what u did is great as long as its not your 1st or 2nd cycle

    you see what I am getting at

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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969
    uhhh 8 WHAT a day... pounds?
    haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by rborwn77
    haha
    ya if this is the 1st cycle I would try like 25-30mg/ed taken every 4hrs or so for weeks 1-4

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanw21
    i would take all 30 mg about an hour before you lift. that worked great for me. nolva at 10 mg a day will help with the bloating.
    you need to take it every 4 hrs to keep the blood levels stable and because of its half life
    Last edited by rborwn77; 08-26-2004 at 01:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Slin
    25mg is absolutley minimum. .
    I also dont agree with this either.I took dbol for my 1st time 25mg/ed and I had to stop after 2weeks because I became a physco on the stuff I was almost getting in a fight everyday ,for no good reason .This is probally becasue of my temper and everyone reacts different to it ,I would start low and increase as you see fit

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    TTT//Lets hear some more suggestions of what you can add to Test E to make a good cycle..

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    Thanks for all the replies guys. Keep'm coming! I'm thinking I might go with the Dbol as it's a good simple choice, I'm still open to options though. Again, I want to something fairly safe and keepable with low sides.

    I ran EQ the first time around and got mad acne at the end of my cycle, during pct in fact. It stuck around for 6 months until I got some Accutane. I guess I can't 100% pin it on the EQ but that's my suspiscion. Maybe it was the fluctuating blood levels after cycle/start of PCT.

    Thanks bro's

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