Whats a good begginers cycle with trenabol/dbol? First cycle. currently 6'2" 240 10% BF. Goals are to simply pack on more slabs of muscle and strenth.
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Whats a good begginers cycle with trenabol/dbol? First cycle. currently 6'2" 240 10% BF. Goals are to simply pack on more slabs of muscle and strenth.
there is no good beginner cycle with these drugs...
Dbol for the first 4 weeks just to kick start your cycleQuote:
Originally Posted by Cuttup
Trenbol at 75mg EOD
Do not run Dbol after 4 weeks cos u'll start pissing blood since tren and the deebs would both jack up your liver......tons of cranberry extract and cran juice with milk thistle and 2 gals of water everyday...
test base?
Bad idea. Not your layout, but just a bad idea to run those alone without test. You need some more researching. Tren is also usually considered too harsh to use on a first cycle. I don't know that from experience though.Quote:
Originally Posted by khurrams
thanks Khurrams. Fabry and 1 badcamaro, you wanna elaborate a little more please?
khurram, dont give such a bad advice, pls.
cuttup, there are a lot of info about first cycles, just do a little search.
i only tell u... test as a base!!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by fabry
My appologies...but I was just telling him what he had wanted to know about trenbol/dbol cycle......I personaly did the trenbol-75 and dbol like I had mentioned and saw some really good gains and kept most of it aswell......But yes you all are right and I should have mentioned that aswell.....Test should be a must base for every cycle...Try hitting in enanthate with your Dbols and save your tren for the second leg of your cycle.....my .02 cents
some people experience good gains with bad cycles, but i think we should give the best advice to a beginner...
this...
"But yes you all are right and I should have mentioned that aswell.....Test should be a must base for every cycle...Try hitting in enanthate with your Dbols and save your tren for the second leg of your cycle.....my .02 cents"...
...is a much better advice, even if id save tren for 3rd or 4th cycle.
a lot of other aas can be used before: deca, eq, etc etc..
Thankyou professor fabry :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by fabry
professr? me... u kiddin!
im just tryin to give a good advice when and if can...but sometims i give up coz my experience is poor and im still learning a lot right now..
Cuttup also research some anti-e's and your Post Cycle Therapy as well.....Goodluck Chief...
yEAH,..IVE GOT some Nolva, Dbol,...just trying to narrow it down to whick test i want to do or if I should go with Deca instead.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuttup
Don't do that....Deca alone is a big no no....You'll get shut down with deca alone....you should always add Test to your cycle regardless.....Doing Deca with Dbol will give u a limp dick for a couple of months.....meaning no sex drive nothing....Id suggest go with either enanthate or Sustanon 250/Omnadren 250 same thing....They are both cocktails for 4 different Tests....You can also add prop if u want...there u have a few tests u can pick from....Good Luck Boss..
What no thanks to me? :frown: This is because of the avatar isn't it? :lol: Just kidding around, Deca alone is another bad idea. Try a search on "Deca dick" and read the results. You'll see why. For a first cycle ever you should be looking in to running test and maybe one other compound with it. Preferably, IMO, a DHT derivative like winnie or maybe d-bol. I suggest to you something like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuttup
Test Enanthate @500mg EW weeks 1-12 shot Mon and Thu
D-bol weeks 1-4 @30mg ED and weeks 11-14 @ 30mg ED
Nolva @10mg ED through cycle, 20mg ED through PCT
Clomid for PCT, look up Pheedno's protocal
Milk Thistle @750-1,000mg's ED throughout cycle and PCT
this could be another option but id prefer:Quote:
Originally Posted by ECoastVIP
D-bol weeks 1-4 @30mg ED
Test Enanthate @500mg EW weeks 1-12
D-bol weeks 13-14 @ 30mg ED (but id go with prop instead)
Nolva @10mg ED through cycle
PCT wks 15-17 with 20mg Nolva and Clomid (look up Pheedno's protocal)
ecoast, why do u complain about your avatar? did u see mine?!?!?!?!
Bro, the best advise is to make sure you research everything! don't rush into it. If it were me, I'd do the following cycle and know the backround on each drug including half lives, esters, etc......
Week 1-4 DBOL 30mg (split dose up every 4.5 hrs)
Week 1-12 Test Enan 500mg EW (split dosage on Monday's and Thursdays)
Nolva - 10mg ED
L-dex - .25mg ED
PCT - Clomid (2 weeks after last test shot)
Again, I strongly suggest taking Test every cycle. To me is a must and I LOVE IT!
you guys are extremely helpful,..thanks.