Efedrine/Ephedra

**SaTyR** · 08-27-2004, 02:58 AM

Hello all ,

Im currently in a test cycle . My gains are good , but I have gained allot of fat. I am planning on starting a diet a couple of weeks after my pct .

Week 1-4 : Cardio 45minutes at 75percent of MH/ED
Week 1-4 : 25mg Efedrine/ED (do you think this is a good dose?)

tnx.

**Jrock79** · 08-27-2004, 05:20 AM

I just got off and I'm taking 50mg of Ephedrine and I'm fine...just split it up... Im sure you can take more but I'm content with 50mg/ed.

Originally Posted by SaTyR

Hello all ,

Im currently in a test cycle . My gains are good , but I have gained allot of fat. I am planning on starting a diet a couple of weeks after my pct .

Week 1-4 : Cardio 45minutes at 75percent of MH/ED
Week 1-4 : 25mg Efedrine/ED (do you think this is a good dose?)

tnx.

**co2boi** · 08-27-2004, 05:39 AM

Should be more like 25mg 3 times a day bro. Add in 250mg of caffeine for better results

**Jrock79** · 08-27-2004, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by co2boi

Should be more like 25mg 3 times a day bro. Add in 250mg of caffeine for better results

Caffine is a must...usually will have 4 large D&D's a day....

**khurrams** · 08-27-2004, 08:23 AM

325mg Bayer Asprine
200mg Anohydrous Caffiene
25mg Ephedrine

Pop the Asprin with your first dosage only in the AM and just do another doze of 200mg Caf and 25mg Eph in the PM......This is the proper recipe and u'll see wonders within a week..

**kingofmasters** · 08-27-2004, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by khurrams

325mg Bayer Asprine
200mg Anohydrous Caffiene
25mg Ephedrine

Pop the Asprin with your first dosage only in the AM and just do another doze of 200mg Caf and 25mg Eph in the PM......This is the proper recipe and u'll see wonders within a week..

please don't use aspirin!!

25 mg Ephedrine
200 mg Cafeine
5 mg Yohimbine
40 mg Guggelsterones
75-200 mg Acetyl-L-Cartinine

3 times a day
+ 2-4 mg Ketotifen for bed

for 6-8 weeks is the most effective and safe (mild) fatburner

**co2boi** · 08-27-2004, 08:43 AM

I never understood what the benefit of asprin is supposed to be. Is it the blood thinning affects?

**Russ616** · 08-27-2004, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by kingofmasters

please don't use aspirin!!

25 mg Ephedrine
200 mg Cafeine
5 mg Yohimbine
40 mg Guggelsterones
75-200 mg Acetyl-L-Cartinine

3 times a day
+ 2-4 mg Ketotifen for bed

for 6-8 weeks is the most effective and safe (mild) fatburner

I don't see anything wrong with the aspirin... Except I only recommend 81mgs of it, not 325...

200mgs of caffeine for every 25mgs tab of ephedrine ( 2-3 times daily )

**TheMudMan** · 08-27-2004, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by kingofmasters

please don't use aspirin!!

25 mg Ephedrine
200 mg Cafeine
5 mg Yohimbine
40 mg Guggelsterones
75-200 mg Acetyl-L-Cartinine

3 times a day
+ 2-4 mg Ketotifen for bed

for 6-8 weeks is the most effective and safe (mild) fatburner

Hey bro...... please explain yourself why not to use asprin? Not doubting you but you need to explain yourself when your suggestion goes against what almost every site will suggest to use.

**co2boi** · 08-27-2004, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

Hey bro...... please explain yourself why not to use asprin? Not doubting you but you need to explain yourself when your suggestion goes against what almost every site will suggest to use.

I agree with that statement, but there's also the counter of that...other sites say to use asprin and I am yet to see / read why...

**khurrams** · 08-27-2004, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by kingofmasters

please don't use aspirin!!

25 mg Ephedrine
200 mg Cafeine
5 mg Yohimbine
40 mg Guggelsterones
75-200 mg Acetyl-L-Cartinine

3 times a day
+ 2-4 mg Ketotifen for bed

for 6-8 weeks is the most effective and safe (mild) fatburner

WRONG!!!!!
The purpose of Aspirin is to reduce fever and since you are taking Ephedrine and Caffiene together...it tends to over heat the body so the purpose of Aspirin is to neutralize the effects unless you wanna die of over heating.....

**dzlx** · 08-27-2004, 10:01 AM

Isent aspirin used in ECA stack to prolong the effect of ephedrine/caffeine ?

**LS1** · 08-27-2004, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by dzlx

Isent aspirin used in ECA stack to prolong the effect of ephedrine/caffeine ?

Yes i think you are correct with that it does that with thinning the blood. That is what iv been to believed but i can be wrong??

**kingofmasters** · 08-27-2004, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by khurrams

WRONG!!!!!
The purpose of Aspirin is to reduce fever and since you are taking Ephedrine and Caffiene together...it tends to over heat the body so the purpose of Aspirin is to neutralize the effects unless you wanna die of over heating.....

Just like dzlx said the aspirin is to prolong its effectiveness...
What you say is medical nonsense...

If used with the 2 weeks on/off schedule
(maybe with some clen on "off weeks") the aspirin is unnessary if used longer than that timespan then Ketotifen will do the trick!!

Aspirin has too many sides to be worth it
--> See a few of my threads on my custom made ECY-stacks!

I have many people backing me up! (People who tried my following generations of ECY's)
IN PRACTICE --> No (semi-legal) stack is more effective than the simple one I described...

(I have a more effective one but it contains Octopamine, Orlistat, Piperine and many other exotic substances)

Greets
Kingofmasters

**stillpoking** · 08-27-2004, 10:28 AM

This worked pretty well for me, lost about 20 lbs in 8 weeks.

M elatonin
A spirin
C affeine
E phedrine

I was on the ACE stack, then couldnt get to sleep, so added the M and I was good to go. Start melting the fat away.

**SaTyR** · 08-27-2004, 12:23 PM

Ive read the story about a famous baseball player who died taking only 60mg Efedrine /ED. Thats why I asked for the doses , tnx all for your responses .

**khurrams** · 08-27-2004, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by kingofmasters

please don't use aspirin!!

25 mg Ephedrine
200 mg Cafeine
5 mg Yohimbine
40 mg Guggelsterones
75-200 mg Acetyl-L-Cartinine

3 times a day
+ 2-4 mg Ketotifen for bed

for 6-8 weeks is the most effective and safe (mild) fatburner

Okay tell me something.....I just started the Clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and on the off weeks I was planning to take E/C/A Stack....I think Im gonna follow your lead and Do the E/C/Y this time....But the thing is that the Yohimbe that I have is 500mg per cap and you stated to do only 5mg.....Now the question is if I do the Yohimbe once in the AM with the Caf and Eph and do another dose of Caf and Eph in the PM would that still be effective.......Thanking you in an anticipation...

**khurrams** · 08-27-2004, 02:11 PM

bump

**kingofmasters** · 08-27-2004, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by khurrams

Okay tell me something.....I just started the Clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and on the off weeks I was planning to take E/C/A Stack....I think Im gonna follow your lead and Do the E/C/Y this time....But the thing is that the Yohimbe that I have is 500mg per cap and you stated to do only 5mg.....Now the question is if I do the Yohimbe once in the AM with the Caf and Eph and do another dose of Caf and Eph in the PM would that still be effective.......Thanking you in an anticipation...

Don't use Yohimbe --> It is an extract (probably 1%)

just buy the pure Yohimbine HCL powder from 1fast400.com

**joevette** · 08-27-2004, 03:09 PM

That baseball player that died was a moron. There were so many factors in his death I can't even remember them all. He was in a hot humid environment that he was not used to, he was dehydrated because he thought he could lose weigth that way, he was wearing layers of clothin, he had a family history (his brother either died or nearly died of the same thing but without ephedrine. That story was perfect for the media.

**joevette** · 08-27-2004, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by khurrams

WRONG!!!!!
The purpose of Aspirin is to reduce fever and since you are taking Ephedrine and Caffiene together...it tends to over heat the body so the purpose of Aspirin is to neutralize the effects unless you wanna die of over heating.....

That's just rediculous. OK here are my bbts for different compounds:

ECY(140mg ephedrine ed): 97.5
ECA(140mg ephedrine ed): 97.5
250mcg clen +250mcg T3: 97.8
600mg DNP (after one week): 98.1

So you can see the asperin had no effectivness, and even on DNP I was still below normal BBT.

**khurrams** · 08-27-2004, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by joevette

That's just rediculous. OK here are my bbts for different compounds:

ECY(140mg ephedrine ed): 97.5
ECA(140mg ephedrine ed): 97.5
250mcg clen +250mcg T3: 97.8
600mg DNP (after one week): 98.1

So you can see the asperin had no effectivness, and even on DNP I was still below normal BBT.

My appologies on the Mis-Info...Ignorance is not an excuse but I was informed by the Health Nutritionist at a local GNC in regards to the requirement of Aspirin or white willow bark in an ECA stack and why it was necessary.....My first impulse was that he knew what he was talking about apparently he didn't so my bad.....

**joevette** · 08-27-2004, 03:41 PM

It's cool, that's why we're hear. We all want to learn and don't trust those kids at GNC!!!

**Rebel Yell** · 08-27-2004, 05:14 PM

Dudes, do they still have Ephedra available on the web?
Trying to get my paws on them.

Saw a place that had it , but it had soem other strange crap in for clearing muscous and stuff, so I said nah.

**JudgeDredd** · 04-13-2006, 08:09 AM

Hey guys...just started working out again after 3 years. I used to mainly do a lot of cardio back in the day with xenodrine (with ephedra). Stopped after I had a bad accident and ive gained about 80 lbs since then. I started doing an EC stack, trying to avoid the asperin so far because I honestly don't have the details on it's purpose. What stack do you guys reccomend I start out with? Today would be day 4 of my work out, doing around 36 minutes of cardio and 30-45 minutes of weights, isolating 1-2 muscles a day. Any advice would be appreciated