Thread: Dammit I'm not growing!
08-28-2004, 06:35 PM #1
Dammit I'm not growing!
I'm not growing, and it's becoming irritating. I have a few theories, but I'm no expert so I need your input. Currently finishing up Week 8 of following cycle:
1-2 drol @ 75mg/day
2-4 dbol @ 35mg/day
6-7 drol @ 150mg/day
1-7 test-e @ 500mg
1-7 tren @ 75mg/day
1-7 eq @ 400mg
8-? test-e @750mg
8-? eq @600mg
10-? winny @75mg
femara, liquidex, and nolva as needed
This is my 2nd full cycle. On my first cycle earlier this year, the effect of taking dbols was readily apparent; I gained weight like crazy and looked HUGE. This time around, however, the orals have not helped me in any visible way.
Maybe this is too much gear. I noticed that while on tren and drol, my heart was always beating somewhat hard and fast, and my buddy told me my breathing was really heavy when I slept (like when one falls asleep drunk). I sweat a lot in general, but the tren obviously made it worse. Maybe all this hard gear did something to my metabolism that made it much harder for me to gain mass. Maybe there is such a thing as 'too much gear'.
On the other hand, my muscle definition and muscle density have visibly improved, which I'm quite happy with.
I've also noticed that, while on tren and drol, I sometimes got really tired really quickly in the gym. I think they somehow affected my stamina; I felt like I couldn't breathe sometimes. I get enough sleep. I've been on summer vacation and don't work. I get enough calories with my diet.
I need constructive input/advice. Thanks in advance.
Last edited by Boardrider; 08-28-2004 at 06:57 PM.
08-28-2004, 06:37 PM #2
Creative, I'll say that much
08-28-2004, 06:42 PM #3Originally Posted by Boardrider
08-28-2004, 06:44 PM #4New Member
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if you are even lifting a little bit, you should grow on that cycle! Im going to guess fake gear
08-28-2004, 06:45 PM #5
you did a great job of explaining everything except your diet and workout. I can't see any clear problems with your cycle so i would guess the answer lies in one of these other two areas. Also, are you getting enough sleep?
08-28-2004, 06:58 PM #6Originally Posted by Opey
08-28-2004, 07:01 PM #7Originally Posted by 1-Cent
08-28-2004, 07:09 PM #8
Are you already done will the cycle?? Or what week are you on? I cant beleive that the A-bomb's are not doing anything...bunk gear maybe???
08-28-2004, 07:20 PM #9
i'm with everyone else, it's gotta be fake gear, you definitely should be seeing more results....
08-28-2004, 08:56 PM #10
Isay the drols were fake and the diet isnt on
08-28-2004, 09:06 PM #11Originally Posted by Boardrider
08-28-2004, 09:18 PM #12
i'd take a look at your diet and workouts...
are you getting enough calories? protein?
are you overtraining? undertraining?
give us an idea of what they look like...IMO diet is one of the key issues with people not seeing the results they desire...
08-29-2004, 01:37 AM #13Anabolic Member
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How are you eating and working out? If you are under experienced, your body will not react in 2nd or later cycles, then you start shrinking as you PCT one cycle to the next. I'd say sounds like you are much too inexperienced in diet and training to be taking steroids . Also 2nd cycles will not water bloat you or put on as much fat as the first time. Dont know why but it just happens that way. Subsequent cycles tend to actually be more of fat BURNERS so if you really arent putting muscle on, you can actually shrink and loose weight from one cycle to the next.
08-29-2004, 06:52 AM #14Originally Posted by cb25
however dont forget you prob wont grow on your 2nd cycle like you did on your first,maybe your not holding as much water this time round wich is a good thing but provide the above info that cb25 requested to give us more chance of helping you as i know time like these r a bitch
08-29-2004, 07:53 AM #15
No growth from that cycle wtf?
06-22-2010, 02:25 AM #16New Member
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The only thing I can think of here mate, I had this problem too... The Tren was keeping me awake at night... I couldn't sleep for more than 5 hours or so in 24 which really isn't good for growing. I came off the tren which means I can now sleep, but I miss the eating and strength gain that tren gives me...
Everyone's different bro but I had this prob and it was definitely lack of sleep...
Remember that every hour before 12 is worth 2 after...
06-22-2010, 02:36 AM #17
To answer your questing since no one else has..... YES there is such a thing as to much gear. Your body could be turning it into estrogen and in fact stopping any gains. You need some estrogen obviously but to much is bad.
Are you taking any AI? I would get my blood check if possible or start on a AI right away.
06-22-2010, 02:57 AM #18
Yeah I think he might have finished that cycle about 6 years ago fellas....
06-22-2010, 02:59 AM #19
Hahahahahaha good catch.
I wonder if he grew?
No PLEASE let this be a lesson to you guys. When you start a thread PLEASE finish it with what the results where.
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06-22-2010, 03:23 AM #21
fuk me come on, its a 2004 thread, let it die...............*Anyone wanting a source check from a willing vet/mod must first acquire 100 posts and 45 days of activity*The Young and Steroids
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