Can You Be On Steroids And Smoke

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

hi im recently gonna hit winny i havent hit it yet i just wanted to know can you smoke cigarettes and effectivly train hard and get good gains while on the roids or does it set you back big time?

[enid_sprinter]

i dont think anyone is gonna recomend it, but i dont know if smoking has much effect on your muscle gains except that your not going to be able to work out as hard because of lack of lung power. your going to get tired and winded faster, and with winni your gonna want to do some cardio im guessing so thats gonna hurt that.

[Lozgod]

i dont think anyone is gonna recomend it, but i dont know if smoking has much effect on your muscle gains except that your not going to be able to work out as hard because of lack of lung power. your going to get tired and winded faster, and with winni your gonna want to do some cardio im guessing so thats gonna hurt that.

I thought that since you think people benefit from drinking on cycle you would recommend smoking on cycle too. Sorry couldnt help myself.

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

is that ben johnson in your picture? are u on winny?

[enid_sprinter]

I thought that since you think people benefit from drinking on cycle you would recommend smoking on cycle too. Sorry couldnt help myself.

i knew some dumb@ss like you wouldnt have anything to say on the topic so you would find some dumb@ss reason to get another post.

[enid_sprinter]

yea thats ben, im not on winny. but i know allot about it.

[bluethunder]

The simple answer is YES!

[Lozgod]

i knew some dumb@ss like you wouldnt have anything to say on the topic so you would find some dumb@ss reason to get another post.

You must have ESP then. Thats awesome. Must be all that non-flush free niacin.

[enid_sprinter]

You must have ESP then. Thats awesome. Must be all that non-flush free niacin.

yea, all your dork research knowledge must be fueled by your vitman B.

[Lozgod]

yea, all your dork research knowledge must be fueled by your vitman B.

Oh yeah well your feet smell like Vitamin K fartface.


Smoking on cycle is bad because:

Smoking raises blood pressure
Steroids raise blood pressure

Smoking lowers HDL cholesterol
Some steroids lower HDL cholesterol

smoking raises LDL cholesterol
some steroids raise ldl cholesterol

so gains may go unaffected, but your lifespan may not. Just something to think about while Enid washes my underware by hand in vitamin C.

[Froggy]

i knew some dumb@ss like you wouldnt have anything to say on the topic so you would find some dumb@ss reason to get another post.

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[Auctoris]

I thought that since you think people benefit from drinking on cycle you would recommend smoking on cycle too. Sorry couldnt help myself.

Depends in which weeks u uses it...

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

enid sprinter could u tell me about winny? like im a chubby guy just gonna start winny will i see good results how long do i have to be on it for?

[Lozgod]

enid sprinter could u tell me about winny? like im a chubby guy just gonna start winny will i see good results how long do i have to be on it for?

You dont think Winny burns fat do you?

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

yeah i heard that what it does?

[Lozgod]

yeah i heard that what it does?

Nope. Research some more.

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

yeah ive done research it burns fat while building muscle what do u think it does

[Lozgod]

yeah ive done research it burns fat while building muscle what do u think it does

It builds and hardens muscles. If you were lets say 8-10% bf you would see a difference. If you were say 14-1000000000000000% you will not see much of a difference.

[SV-1]

Smoking + Winny only cycle for fat loss + enid_sprinter =

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

oh ok i get ya so i gotta loose some weight before i start using it. thanks for your help bro

[Lozgod]

oh ok i get ya so i gotta loose some weight before i start using it. thanks for your help bro

What are your stats, goals, dreams, aspirations, bf%, etc???????

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

ok this is my goal. i am 5`10 88kg i dont know how much that is in pounds i wanna get ripped up not overboard just nice

[drdeath613]

read this and u cant go wrong

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

i dont know what my body fat is id guess around 20% i got a bit of a gut

[Lozgod]

ok this is my goal. i am 5`10 88kg i dont know how much that is in pounds i wanna get ripped up not overboard just nice

Try cardio and diet before steroids , especially to cut up. Or look in to Clen , T3, DNP , HGH, IGF, ECA stacks etc.

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

and i got a bit of a double chin the fat on my face i hate it i wanna loose that the most

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

and i wanna be like stallone in rambo 3 didnt he use stanazol

[Lozgod]

and i got a bit of a double chin the fat on my face i hate it i wanna loose that the most

Winny definetly wouldnt do much for you then. Sounds like you are looking for a shortcut to hard work. I say start with diet and exercise, natural. How old are you BTW, it doesnt make a difference, just curious.

[SV-1]

read this and u cant go wrong

Or this.

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

im 22 and yes your right i do want a shortcut isnt that the whole point of taking winny

[Lozgod]

im 22 and yes your right i do want a shortcut isnt that the whole point of taking winny

Good luck. Im out of this one. May God have mercy on your soul.

[enid_sprinter]

ill help ya out bro, once again most people on here spend more time critisizing people and talking smack other than helpin people out. ill pm ya later.

[Lozgod]

ill help ya out bro, once again most people on here spend more time critisizing people and talking smack other than helpin people out. ill pm ya later.

Poor guy. He's going to be washing down winnies with beer and vodka.

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

lol you guys are funny im stuck but cause i really wanna take winny to take a shorcut out of to much hard work isnt that a viable option

[1-Cent]

lol you guys are funny im stuck but cause i really wanna take winny to take a shorcut out of to much hard work isnt that a viable option

Eh? Let me get this straight, you want to take a steroid to "get out of hard work"? Quit now

[SV-1]

lol you guys are funny im stuck but cause i really wanna take winny to take a shorcut out of to much hard work isnt that a viable option

According to enid_sprinter, YES.

According to everyone else, NO.

You do the math.

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

no i want quick results i will do the hard work

[KiLLuMiNaTi]

isnt that the point of steroids ? in a way whoever takes steroids is a lazy bum because they dont wanna do it naturally i want quick results thats why i want to take steroids its weird how where in a steroid forum and u guys are saying dont take steroids like its some lost art only for speacial people

[1-Cent]

Bro if you're at 20% bf, and you smoke, you aren't nearly serious about the lifestyle to be even considering steroids .

Honestly guys everyone here will b*tch the hell out of a 20 year old guy at the top of his game for wanting to use AAS but when an overweight smoker wants to its even considered?

[edmen2]

do as much research off this board as u can. steroids help u gain muscle faster than being natural but u have to work twice as hard and believe its no shortcut. not trying to flame u but with an attitude like that and unwillingness to do proper research on the chemical that u r going to put in ur body maybe u should just leave it alone. u should also never do winny alone. use the search to find out why.