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    motoman is offline New Member
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    Test/Deca/Dbol and or?

    Second cycle, looking to put on lean mass and increase strength, but I would like to minimize water retention. I know I'll get a lot with the proposed cycle, but I'm wondering if theres anything you would change or add anywhere within this cycle to cut water. Please advise. Right now I'm 5'11 180lbs and about 10-12% BF. I've read that nolvadex throughout will help plus reduce chance of gyno.

    Week 1-4 35mg/day dbol
    Week 1-11 400mg enanthate
    Week 1-10 200mg/deca
    Week 1-12 injectable B-12 (maybe)

    PCT will start 3 weeks after last Enanthate shot. Its been a while, so I'll have to research quantity and frequency of clomid and nolvadex etc. (Yes I will search)
    (On a totally unrelated note, is it normal to squat 400lbs -stopping with thighs parralel to floor with a 22" leg. )

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    Switch Enathate for Propionate if you dont mind ED shots!

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    Week 1-4 prop
    Week 1-13 enanthate
    Week 1-12 eq (min. 400: and deca , @ 200mg is too low)
    Week 14-15 prop
    1-15 10mg nolva & .25mg ldex (or 50mg proviron ed, much better than ldex imo)

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    Thanks for the input. The longest I want to run is 12 weeks, any other suggestions. I was keeping the dose pretty low, seeing as how this only my second cycle. Should I increase my plan to 500mg/enanthate . 300 deca .

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    For strength increase...add Fina

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    Quote Originally Posted by somedude247
    For strength increase...add Fina
    i wouldnt use too many drugs (especially fina) in a second cycle...
    regardin dosages, especially for a mild aas like eq, remember that if u dont use an "adeguate" dosage, it will be a waste...

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    If you end w/ prop like fabry has it you can start PCT 3 days after your last prop injection.

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