Is 30MG of Anavar a day, enough for a 180 pound person doing an Anavar only cycle?
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Is 30MG of Anavar a day, enough for a 180 pound person doing an Anavar only cycle?
Var only is almost a waste of time... and at 30mg it is. Up it or dont run it. And man up and shoot some test :)
Var is the only oral that you might consider running alone, 30mg a day is plenty for me but run it with some sust or test because it shuts you down and it sucks being shut down when you don't have some inj to take care of things, i run var with sust and it feels good
30 should ok but more would be better say 50mg ed if you can afford it.
If you are going to run it alone run it to 60mg. Run milk thistle and proviron, and keep cialis on hand if you want to **** a girl.
60 mg a day would be a boulder in my pocket.Quote:
Originally Posted by rambo
Im running 75mg right now :D
umm I thought it didnt suppress your natural test production.
All AAS suppresses natural production of hormone...... This is why PCT is needed after a VAR only cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by builtthekid
Myth.Quote:
Originally Posted by builtthekid
Actually anavar in low doses is not suppressive at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by ECoastVIP
Its routinely given to children with developmental problems
You should back up comments like these with posting of articles. You can not compare the the HPTA of a child that hasn't been through puberty with an adult male.Quote:
Originally Posted by durkheim
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Originally Posted by TheMudMan
Your right... I'd bet a whole hell of alot that a child not going through puberty produces waaaay less test than an adult male.... could be wrong on that assumption.
http://www.getswole.com/anabolics/profiles/anavar.shtml
check this out
If it's on the internet it must be true. :rolleyes: You can find somewhere on some site people saying they bridge with d-bol. Does that make it smart. No.Quote:
Originally Posted by latino_athlete
Do you realise there would be considerably more severe consequences for a child who has not developed through puberty to have his HPTA disrupted?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMudMan
My position on anavar is that its a great drug, it has many purposes and albeit mild in nature produces tremendous gains in comparison to side effects. Ulter once commented its "safer than baby food".
Before I come across as promoting anavar only cycles to teenagers.. dosages of 60-80mg which would promote gains many bodybuilders would consider justifiable by the cost of anavar are infact suppressive of the HPTA.
However.. there is a lot of evidence suggesting smaller doses will yield smaller gains - but without affecting the HPTA to any significant extent.
From Big Cat's Steroid Profiles: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catanavar.htm
oxandrolone owes its large popularity due to its safety. In sharp contrast to oxymetholone, oxandrolone is quite generally considered to be the safest of all steroids. Its effects are more than well-documented and have been for a few decades now. The medical community values oxandrolone as a safe alternative for more harmful steroids, which is why it is considered safe for use in children and even in patients suffering hepa-toxicity as the result of alternate steroid use1.
considered safe for use in prepubescent children with a growth delay7. No major harmful effects were noted from this particular therapy, eventhough one study8 reported that the use of oxandrolone did speed up the onset of puberty in these children. Furthermore oxandrolone has found frequent applications in the treatment of other wasting symptoms for hepatitis and cancer as well as the treatment of osteoporosis in both men and women of all ages.
From www.anasci.org
Studies using low dosages of this compound note minimal interferences with natural testosterone production. Likewise when it is used alone in small amounts there is typically no need for ancillary drugs like Clomid/Nolvadex or HCG. This has a lot to do with the fact that it does not convert to estrogen, which we know has an extremely profound effect on endogenous hormone production. Without estrogen to trigger negative feedback, we seem to note a higher threshold before inhibition is noted. But at higher dosages of course, a suppression of natural testosterone levels will still occur with this drug as with any anabolic/androgenic steroid and therefore require post cycle therapy to restore the HPTA.
http://www.domesticgear.com/anavar.html
The third reason which speaks well for an intake of Oxandrolone is that even in a very high dosage this compound does not influence the body's own testosterone production. To make this clear: Oxandrolone does not suppress the body's own hormone production. The reason is that it does not have a negative feedback mechanism on the hypothalamohypophysial testicular axis, meaning that during the intake of Oxandrolone, unlike during the intake of most anabolic steroids, the testes signal the hypo-thalamus not to reduce or to stop the release of GnRH (gonadotropin releasing hormone) and LHRH Luteinizing hormone releasing hormone). This special feature of Oxandrolone can be explained by the fact that the substance is not converted into estrogen Oxandrolone (Anavar), when given to normal men in high doses does not reduce the seminal volume or count, nor can it be converted (aromatized) into estrogen.
I will try to dig up some studies later..
Yeah that was Fonz at fitness geared, heres Big Cat tearing that article up:Quote:
Originally Posted by ECoastVIP
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=111273
I know where you're coming from though, there is way too much misinformation out there on steroid use. I will try to find some studies after work
Are you sure about this.......... Also, what you posted contradicts itself... one say no suppression, another say minimal suppression........ What is it? Any suppression of HPTA in an adult male needs to be treated.Quote:
Originally Posted by durkheim
There would be no sence in running anavar at low doses....... there are very little benifits in doing so in the use of bodybuilding.
If you can find these studies stateing that there's no suppression of natrual production of hormone I would like to see them.