Thread: help I need to change roids
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09-01-2004, 10:38 AM #1Junior Member
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help I need to change roids
ok this is the problem
Im on my cuting cycle, im doing 8 to 12 week depending on how i feel
this is what im using
50 mg of winn eod
450 mg of prop a week
300 mg of test a week
my problem is that i can take the prop anymore, the pain is really bad and i missed work out days because of these shoots, i need to change the prop for something else.
for what i been learning from u guys, is that u have to keep your test at least 100 mg more than your deca , so the main question here is there is anythinh else that i can take instead of the propionate ? i want to keep using the deca, can i use any other form of test either cypio, or etha?
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09-01-2004, 10:39 AM #2
so u are taking 450 of prop and 300 of test? what ester of test?
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09-01-2004, 10:39 AM #3
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09-01-2004, 10:41 AM #4
and winny should be taken ED because of the short halflife
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09-01-2004, 10:43 AM #5
why not run enanthate with an anti-e ?
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09-01-2004, 10:55 AM #6Junior Member
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what do you mean "ester"
the prop is 100mg for 1 cc so I shoot it 3 times a week 150mg everytime
this is what i been doing
M,F 50 mg of winn and 150 of prop
W 50 mg of winn, 150 of prop and 300 of deca
But the prop is killing me in the last 4 week i lost 4 days in the gym and also acouple of days at work because of the pain, at this moment i can barely walk and the last shoot was on monday.
you mean anti estrogen?
so how much mg of test either cyp or etha? should i keep it in the 450?
i will start the winn ed
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09-01-2004, 10:56 AM #7
man you should of used enathate
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09-01-2004, 11:00 AM #8
"Ester" means an extra molecule attached to the testosterone to make it faster or slower release... EXAMPLES: Propionate , Enanthate , Cypionate
Try injecting slower and heating the liquid before injection. Massage thoroughly after injection and also you can put a heating pad on the site to disperse the oil.
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09-01-2004, 11:09 AM #9Junior Member
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in my last shoot ( monday ) i mix the prop with the deca and i put the syringe under hot water for a while, also i massage the area for 5 min with a hot towel.
i did everything to make it less painful but it didnt work
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09-01-2004, 11:12 AM #10
how long have you been on your cycle? stick with it you'll most likely stop getting the pain after a while.
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09-01-2004, 11:26 AM #11Junior Member
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4 weeks already
the first week i shooted on my shoulder, i wasnt able to move my arm for 2 days, on the next week a shooted again on monday but this time on my glute and the swelling and the pain was really bad also i got a fever and end it up missing two days on the gym and two days at work, and so on. the last shoot was on monday on my glute, i went to the gym yesterday but as soon as i started lifting weights the pain on my glutes start to get worse, now i can barely walk, believe me im even scare of taking my next shoot
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09-01-2004, 11:31 AM #12
What brand of prop are you running??...... it may have a high BA content....that is probably causing the pain.
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09-01-2004, 02:25 PM #13Junior Member
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is vet prop, probably that why it hurts so much
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09-01-2004, 02:44 PM #14
exactely why it hurts so much. u can cut it with some b-12 that will help it out
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09-01-2004, 02:48 PM #15Junior Member
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b-12,
how much b-12 do i need to cut it down?
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09-01-2004, 02:51 PM #16
u can cut it with 500mcg which is usually 1/2 ml
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09-01-2004, 02:56 PM #17Junior Member
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b-12 is liquid vitamin b-12 right?
any idea where can i get it?
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09-01-2004, 02:59 PM #18
u got a PM bro
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09-01-2004, 03:03 PM #19
you can get b-12 at anabolicreview-research.
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09-01-2004, 03:04 PM #20
also im shooting qv prop everyday and am not having any problems at all. it hurt a little bit at first but got easier as time progressed.
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09-01-2004, 03:11 PM #21Junior Member
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i dont know why it hurts so much
out of 8 shoots 6 has been very painful
i can bare the pain but the problem is that im not able to workout
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09-01-2004, 03:22 PM #22Junior Member
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how can i get to anabolicreview- research
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09-01-2004, 03:25 PM #23
click in the top rioght of the page on the banner
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09-01-2004, 03:27 PM #24Junior Member
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thanks bro
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09-01-2004, 04:50 PM #25Originally Posted by oespejel
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09-01-2004, 05:03 PM #26National Level Bodybuilder
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Definitly use B-12, I use 1cc or 1000mcg, its a miracle, no pain. dont drop the prop, use B-12. and you do change injection site everyday correct. you should only hit one spot a week.
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