03-03-2002, 07:07 PM #1
Still need some info....please....
I posted this once b-4 but in 2 days it was looked at by 20 people, which is nice, but then it was on the 2nd or 3rd page all of a sudden.....
If this is wrong, to re-post, I will delete, or Mods can???
Here it is:
I have been reading old posts looking for something about why not add MORE Test. to the mix of Sust?
this cycle could look like this:
Start w/ A50 (if they are to harsh, I am switching to dbol )
Sust. weeks 1-8 (sust250amps, sust300 vial)
A50or Dbol weeks 1-4
Start week2= 600EW thru week 10
Weeks 1 and 2 = 200mg/EW
Start week 4= 400,600,600,200,200
Arimidex , Nolva all the way
Clomid, T3, Clen , ECA post.
The only thing I'm really not sure of is the T Prop and T Cyp.
I don't know if any bad reason not to throw in some extra BUT if anyone does let me know so I don't.
Other than that, as usual, any help is greatly appreciated!
(sorry hard to read?)
03-03-2002, 07:14 PM #2
if i'm reading that right whick i'm probably not it looks like your up to 1200 mg of test in one week... have to ask you your past cycle that you've done????
03-03-2002, 07:23 PM #3
All in all I have done 4 cycles. First 2 were solos (deca only, sust. only) 3 was dbol and deca. 4th was T Cyp, T prop, Eq, Dbol, Winny, w/ a little of a50.
I got up to 900mg of T Cyp. (one week , I would have done another but my ass cheeks killed from 3 cc of alcahol filled T cyp.).
I am 25, 5'8'', BF% 12-14, lifter for several years.
lifting stats: ????
03-03-2002, 07:26 PM #4
03-03-2002, 07:30 PM #5
I just have some residual T Cyp and T prop (10ml of Cyp and 5-6ml of T Prop). Now I have plenty of Sust. and Deca . The Question is:
I didn't find out, in old posts, if adding more of a longer or shorter Test in w/ Sust. would be benificial (higher Test. Higher Results). Or is this going to create a bad effect or no effect at all?
03-03-2002, 07:33 PM #6
oh, the reason for all the diff. Tests is, as you know, that the Test levels would be constant (or close to) for as long as or short as possable.
At least that is what I read or got out of my reading old posts?
03-03-2002, 07:44 PM #7
Bro, there is nothing wrong with the idea of adding test to sust. What matters is how much total testosterone you are injecting a week and what types of esters you are using. For example, if you wanted to use 500mg/w of slow acting esters, and 500mg/w fast acting, then you could combine sust with prop in the following way (Sust 250 is roughly 90mg fast acting, 160mg slow acting):
3 shots of sust a week = 480mg slow acting, 270mg/w fast acting
4 shots of 50mg prop = 200mg fast acting
This totals to 480 slow, 470 fast which is pretty close to the desired goal. So an example:
Sunday - 1cc 50mg prop
Monday - 1cc sust
Tuesday - 1cc 50mg prop
Wednesday - 1cc sust
Tursday - 1cc 50mg prop
Friday - 1cc sust
Saturday - 1cc 50mg prop
In the above example, you are inject fast acting esters every day, so you would get great results from them, plus you are putting in slow acting esters spread out throughout the week so they will also work effectively. After 3-4 weeks of the above you could switch to all slow acting esters (since the initial slow acting esters are already taking effect by then) and keeping with the idea of 1000mg/w test, you could switch to the following for weeks 5-10:
Sunday - 1cc of 250mg/w Test Enan/Cyp
Tuesday - 1cc of Test
Thursday - 1cc of Test
Saturday - 1cc of Test
If you are using less than 500-750mg/w test, then I would not use sust at all. You can get similar results just using Test enanthate and Prop, but for 750mg+ a week, sust is nice because the short acting esters will actually be beneficial....
I hope this helps answer your question..... I'm not sure if it did or not....
03-03-2002, 07:48 PM #8
That was exactly what I was looking for!!
Thank you so much for the quick responses...
I knew I would find the answer here.
thanks again everyone
This cycle of mine wll include b-4 and after pics w/ AS log, stats etc.... I will post all when I am thuough.
wish me luck!!! I shouldn't need it though!
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