cycle advice

[BigBoi83]

im starting to plan my second cycle and i want to use fina in a a sort of lean mass cycle. this is what i have so far ne advice would be appreciated.

1-12 test enanthate800mg/week
1-4 androl 50mg/day
6-14 tren 50mg/day
14-18 pct clomid/nolva

[tonytone]

seems like a lot to me for a second cycle...any other opinions?

[MBaraso]

First off if you looking for lean mass there's no better drug out there then EQ.
Forget about the drol and run eq in it's place @ 400mgs per week.
2nd: You should run the test past the tren , and up the dosage to 75mgs ed.
week 1-14 test 800mgs
week 1-13 Eq 400mgs
week 5-13 tren 75mgs ed
Clomid 2 weeks out.
ldex .5 cc ed

If your diets clean you should gain plenty of lean mass with that cycle.

[UnNaturalBuff]

Dont look too bad too me, just keep your diet in check.

[BigBoi83]

First off if you looking for lean mass there's no better drug out there then EQ.
Forget about the drol and run eq in it's place @ 400mgs per week.
2nd: You should run the test past the tren , and up the dosage to 75mgs ed.
week 1-14 test 800mgs
week 1-13 Eq 400mgs
week 5-13 tren 75mgs ed
Clomid 2 weeks out.
ldex .5 cc ed

If your diets clean you should gain plenty of lean mass with that cycle.

see im not really sure weather to go with a bulker or a cutter. i wanna put on about another twenty lean. i gained very little fat this cycle while bulking. actually i leaned out a bit more and i ate nething i could see. can fina be used in a bulker??

[BigBoi83]

First off if you looking for lean mass there's no better drug out there then EQ.
Forget about the drol and run eq in it's place @ 400mgs per week.
2nd: You should run the test past the tren , and up the dosage to 75mgs ed.
week 1-14 test 800mgs
week 1-13 Eq 400mgs
week 5-13 tren 75mgs ed
Clomid 2 weeks out.
ldex .5 cc ed

If your diets clean you should gain plenty of lean mass with that cycle.

ive never looked into eq to much as i gatherd that it is a weaker steriod . am i correst?? would deca not be better?

[MBaraso]

see im not really sure weather to go with a bulker or a cutter. i wanna put on about another twenty lean. i gained very little fat this cycle while bulking. actually i leaned out a bit more and i ate nething i could see. can fina be used in a bulker??

Yeah fina can be used in cutting or bulking.
Drol is strictly a bulking drug IMO and when you stop usage you'll lose that water weight, only other time drol is used in cutting is when your in pre-contest to preserve the muscle while dieting...Stick with EQ/test/tren for lean mass.

[BigBoi83]

why should u run test longer than fina??

[MBaraso]

Eq isn't a weak steriod , it just has very low sides so thats why some ppl believe it's weak but it isn't.
Deca is the king of mass builders IMO.
So for your goal I think Eq will be best...Definetly my fav drug.

[MBaraso]

why should u run test longer than fina??

Well for 2 reasons:
Fina shuts u down hard and stopping it a week or 2 before the test will help aid in recovery post cycle.
2nd: you could run into problems with getting it up.

[BigBoi83]

Well for 2 reasons:
Fina shuts u down hard and stopping it a week or 2 before the test will help aid in recovery post cycle.
2nd: you could run into problems with getting it up.

i thought thats why they make cials and viagra

no but really thanx for the help. defiantly considering using the eg now but if i were to go with an all out bulker how should i use deca in this cycle

[MBaraso]

i thought thats why they make cials and viagra

no but really thanx for the help. defiantly considering using the eg now but if i were to go with an all out bulker how should i use deca in this cycle

You don't wanna go with out test even if it's just for 2 weeks, because of the recovery factor.
Bulking cycle would look something like this:
Week 1-14 test e 800mgs
Week 1-4 drol 50mgs ed
week 1-12,or 13 deca 400mgs
clomid 2 weeks out
anti e's throughout if you wish.

[BigBoi83]

You don't wanna go with out test even if it's just for 2 weeks, because of the recovery factor.
Bulking cycle would look something like this:
Week 1-14 test e 800mgs
Week 1-4 drol 50mgs ed
week 1-12,or 13 deca 400mgs
clomid 2 weeks out
anti e's throughout if you wish.

ok bro thanx. sounds good i think im gonna go with the fina eq test but well see what happens.