Yoooo!!

wazzup?

I was thinking of
weeks 1-12 : 400 eq/week
... but everywhere i read , " add test to Eq" so i`m going to obey

I`m 6 foot 7 ; 225lbs @ 11% bfat, i`ve been training for years and always naturally; when bulked i`m in the region of 260 but at about 18-19% bfat and i tend to maintain a lot of water (could this be creatine?)

what do you think of
weeks 1-12 ; eq @300/week
weeks 1-11 ; sustanon 250/week
weeks 1-12 ; nolvadex 10/ed (hate water bloat, and maybe prevents gyno)
weeks 14-16; clomid or hcg

or

weeks 1-12 ; primo @ 200/week
weeks 1-11 ; sustanon 250/week
weeks 1-12 ; nolvadex 10/ed
weeks 14-16; clomid or hcg

I`m concerned with gaining 15-20 with minimal water bloat, i like the dry look, also with correct pct will i be able to maintain at least 75% of my gain?

pics.. first me bulked and fat, the other pics 3 months later (some muscle loss!!) @11-12% Am i ready for a cycle or am i too thin?

thanks
daspaceman

Good choice to obey the "add test to all cycles" rule. Test should be run longer than EQ, and you should run it more than the eq (250mg of sus a week and 300mg of eq a week doesnt go)....id say go with

1-12 EQ 400mg (shot monday and thursday)
1-13 test e 500mg/week (shot monday and thursday)
proper PCT and anti es of course

the reason why i said test 3 instead of sus is because test E is a long acting ester, while sus should be shot EOD for optimal results (although i did e3d and got great results too)

so is sustanon 250 on monday and 250 on thursday ok??

it`s only my first cycle and from what i read gains form sustanon are more keepable and less water retention, becuase of the blend of tests in it .

is 400eq and 500 sustanon too much for a first cycle?

thanks

if you can do 400eq and 500mg of sus on monday and thursday, id say go for it

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Originally Posted by ImmmtheIceman

if you can do 400eq and 500mg of sus on monday and thursday, id say go for it

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i mean if you can do that every week with 200eq and 250mg of sus on monday AND on thursday so 400mg eq a week and 500mg of sus WEEKLY

and yes you can combine them in the same syringe

hehe ok ... at first i was shocked thought you said 400eq/500 sust on mon and then again on thursday hehe thanks for the info brother

any more opinions appreciated ,
10x

Lookin good keep up that hard work. Just a thought...replace that eq with d-bol.

dianabol ... i don`t want to get bloated much, that`s why i opted for primo or equipose , to harden a little bit the bloat, what do you guys think of using primo instead of eq @ 200-300/week?

could i use anvar say in the first 4 weeks instead of of dbol at the beginning of the cycle just to jumpstart the cycle ?
thanks