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    First Real Cycle. Input Welcome.

    Ok, i finally have all the gear for my first cycle. i am 31yrs old, been lifting heavy for two years, and have 16% BF. my diet is a work in progress but i am winning the battle right now. so here is the cycle:

    Test E 250mg/eod weeks 1-12
    Prop 75mg/ed weeks 1-4
    Prop 75mg/ed weeks 12&13
    nolva 10mg/ed weeks 1-12
    Clomid start ptc day after last prop shot.


    any input will be well received, but please dont flame.
    i wanted to go with a mild first cycle and get my body where it needs to be for larger more complex cycles.

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    1 gram of test for a first cycle........... IMO it's WAY too much

    1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
    1 - 12 Enan 500mg/wk
    13 - 14 Prop 75mg ED
    1 - 14 Nolva 20mg ED

    PCT start 3 days after last Prop injection
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid/ 20mg Nolva
    Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva

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    Thanks MudMan i was hoping you would have some input when i saw you were on. should i shoot the E monday & thursday and the Prop 75mg ed?


    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    1 gram of test for a first cycle........... IMO it's WAY too much

    1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
    1 - 12 Enan 500mg/wk
    13 - 14 Prop 75mg ED
    1 - 14 Nolva 20mg ED

    PCT start 3 days after last Prop injection
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
    Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid/ 20mg Nolva
    Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva

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    dont understand why test enant with eod inj (also 250mg eod is a bit high for a first cycle).
    id go with:
    1-4 prop 75mg ed
    1-12 test enant 250mg twice/wk
    13-14 prop 75mg ed
    1-14!!! nolva 10mg ed
    13-15 pct with clomid and nolva

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    themud... lol... u faster!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigkatz
    Thanks MudMan i was hoping you would have some input when i saw you were on. should i shoot the E monday & thursday and the Prop 75mg ed?
    Monday and Thursday are fine with the Enan and yes go ED with the Prop @ 75mg

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    i know the life of prop is short. so does it matter what time o day i inject. if i work out t 4:00pm should i try to inject just before or is at 6:00 am ok it stick it.

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    Your fine in the morning.... just try to inject around the same time ED.

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    Thanks for the input. i will get started Monday and will post before pics. also will be posting update pics from time to time.



    Quote Originally Posted by TheMudMan
    Your fine in the morning.... just try to inject around the same time ED.

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