Help on cycle for newbie

**FreddieD** · 09-06-2004, 04:05 AM

Hi everyone,I'm a newbie on steroids and would like some help on a few questions.

My name is Fred,I'm 20 years old.

I started a cycle of Equipoise boldenol undecyclenate (If thats how you spell it) combined with testan 100.

I take one injection twice a week,I started with 1 ml (0.5 ml Equipoise and 0.5ml Testan).Then went upto 1.5ml and my next injection will be 2ml. (1ml Equipoise and 1ml Testan).

I'm on the cycle for my second week,and I've already had 3 injections.

My question to you is whether these two droids combined will work or not.
I have not seen any results yet,and I'va had 3 injections over a period of 8 days.

Does it take a while for the stuff to start working or should I simply try more dosages ?

PT · 09-06-2004, 04:38 AM

i belive the teston is test-prop and that needs to be shot everyday at 1ml a day.

***the original jason*** · 09-06-2004, 05:00 AM

bro this sounds a little messed up to be honest, what dosages are your test and bold???

for best results you would want to be taking 400-700mg week of test prop and about 400-600mg per week of bold, but both are totally different esters so need to be injected at different times.

Not the cleverest thing to do start shooting something without knowing what you are doing is it?? but we all started experimenting in some way i guess. If you post up what you have im sure someone can help you straighten it out.

Your goals, experience and diet might help also

peace

**FreddieD** · 09-08-2004, 01:27 AM

Okay this is what I have.

10ml Testan 100
10ml Equipoise Boldenon
20ml Depatrone

When should I inject what and how much ??

This is what I've done so far.

1st week.
Monday 0.5ml EQ + 0.5ml Test
Wednesday 0.5ml EQ + 0.5ml Test

2nd Week
Monday 1ml Eq + 1ml Test
Tuesday 2ml Dep
Wednesday 1.5ml Eq + 1.5 Test

And No results yet ??

**FreddieD** · 09-09-2004, 02:54 AM

Wow,all these pro's and noone can give me some help ???

**DARKSEID** · 09-09-2004, 04:04 AM

You don't have nearly enough of eq nor test, and as stated before list your previous experience, and stats, and how long you want to run the cycle.

**FreddieD** · 09-09-2004, 08:10 AM

Experiance and stats don't meen anything,I just wanna get real big real fast.

How much EQ and TEST would I need ?
AND Is it ok to use the Depotrone with the EQ and Test ?

I've been using it for 2 weeks now,and I plan on using it another 6 weeks or so.
DOn't know whether it's long enough or not,but if it's not,I'll buy more gear.

I have had a on and off training experience of about 2 and a half years.

**MotoLifter** · 09-09-2004, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by FreddieD

Experiance and stats don't meen anything,I just wanna get real big real fast.

How much EQ and TEST would I need ?
AND Is it ok to use the Depotrone with the EQ and Test ?

I've been using it for 2 weeks now,and I plan on using it another 6 weeks or so.
DOn't know whether it's long enough or not,but if it's not,I'll buy more gear.

I have had a on and off training experience of about 2 and a half years.

Ok bro,
I liked you at first cause you introduced yourself and were very polite. But now things are starting to change. First off, stats and cycle experience are VERY inportant if you want someone to help you. From the cycle you are running now I am willing to bet you have little or no experience at all. Second be more respectfull especially to Jason, he is one of the guys who makes this board go round. And he is trying to help you. Third there is no "getting real big real fast" so get rid of that idea right now. Get more gear cause what you have is insufficient. And lastly DO SOME ****IN RESEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck.

Moto-jr

**FreddieD** · 09-09-2004, 11:21 PM

Hey who's being rude now ???

Sorry for sounding rude,but that was not how I meant it.

I have done some research but every where I go,they say something different,noone can give me a straight answer.

All I want to know,is how much,and when to inject.
Thats it.

And I wasn't being disrespectfull,and I don't care what you think or say,but I have my 2 year on and off experience,not on droids though,this is my first time using gear.

So please guys,just tell me how much,and how often,and when to inject what.

Don't get me wrong again,I'm not being disrespectfull or rude,I just want a straight answer,everyone tells me something different,and I've ask alot of ppl,visited alot of websites and I didn't help me at all.

And for what it's worth,I've been doing research for about 2 months,maybe I just visited the wrong websites.

So please,any straight answer would be aceepted,even if you just tell me to go **** myself,that would be a good straight answer aswell.

**FreddieD** · 09-09-2004, 11:49 PM

I just heard from some guy at the gym,that the stuff takes about 3 weeks to load into my system,is this correct ???

And another guy told me something about your body having receptors,some guys have alot of receptors for EQ,and thus it works good for hem,other Have good receptors for Test,and thus it works good for them,but the guy with good receptors for Test,has bad receptors for EQ,and thus the EQ doesn't work good for him. IS this also true ???

See what I meen by different info from everyone I talk to.
One guy says I must take 1ml Test everyday of the week.
And 1ml EQ three times a week
And 2ml Depotrone Twice a week.
And I'm supposed to inject all this stuff in one week.
Isn't 10ml a week a bit tight ???

Another guy tells me just to get my body loadedas stated above) and then to start take less droids on the third week when the stuff starts kicking in.

I've talked to about 15 Pro bodybuilders and everyone gives me different advice.This is what confuses me so much,maybe I should do it as I see fit,and see what happens ???

So far,I injected this.

First week Monday. 0.5ml EQ + 0.5ml Test
First week Wednesday. 0.5ml EQ + 0.5ml Test

Second week Sunday 0.75ml EQ + 0.75ml TEST
Second week Monday 2ml Depotrone
Second week Wednesday 1ml Eq + 1ml Test
Second Week Thursday 2ml Depotrone

And still no results,I can't even feel the stuff,It's as if I'm not even using droids.

Maybe I'm just expecting too much too soon.

Maybe I should just forget about droids and just start dieting ?

**G-Force** · 09-10-2004, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by FreddieD

Experiance and stats don't meen anything,I just wanna get real big real fast.

i cant believe i just heard that

**FreddieD** · 09-10-2004, 05:42 AM

Yeah you did hear that,so what ?

Seems like all of you have problem.

Stuff this.
You can all keep your advice to yourself.
I'll just use the **** as I see fit.

Good bye,and have a good day.

**styles-money** · 09-10-2004, 05:45 AM

Dude...You don't have a single clue. With that attitude of yours, I'm not surprised you weren't able to get any decent advice. You don't even know what concentration your gear is. It doesn't matter how many ML's you shoot. It's all relative to what the concentration of the gear is.

If I were you, I'd stop whatever you're doing. Give us some stat's, do some real research and you'll actually get some good advice from the people on this board. If you even took 5 minutes to look around this board you would know off the bat that a recommended first cycle is 500mg Test week for 10 or 12 weeks. But you didn't know that, so I'm assuming you didn't do any research.

**G-Force** · 09-10-2004, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by FreddieD

Yeah you did hear that,so what ?

Seems like all of you have problem.

Stuff this.
You can all keep your advice to yourself.
I'll just use the **** as I see fit.

Good bye,and have a good day.

please dont go, we all love you here

**styles-money** · 09-10-2004, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by FreddieD

Yeah you did hear that,so what ?

Seems like all of you have problem.

Stuff this.
You can all keep your advice to yourself.
I'll just use the **** as I see fit.

Good bye,and have a good day.

Make sure you take some pictures for us, when you lose all your gains, and grow bitch tits...

**angelxterminator** · 09-10-2004, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by G-Force

please dont go, we all love you here

BWAHAHAHA... mean sons of b*tches

**FreddieD** · 09-10-2004, 08:06 AM

Hey **** all of you.

I'll post you my pics after all my gains.I don't need this **** from any of you.

So piss off,and keep you ****ty info for yourself.

**BUYLONGTERM** · 09-10-2004, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by FreddieD

Hey **** all of you.

I'll post you my pics after all my gains.I don't need this **** from any of you.

So piss off,and keep you ****ty info for yourself.

Bro, take a deep breath and relax. We are here to help, but you have to take the time to do the research yourself. Steroids are NOT a laughing matter, and trust me, doing "some research" isn't nearly enough. We have guys on this board who have been researching for months and years before jumping on. For me, I won't give any advise to someone your age. I still think you have a few years of natural growing ahead of you. Also, STEROIDS are NOT a miracle drug that will get you big fast. Trust me when I say that. Do you realize at your age, you still haven't finished growing? Why risk premature growth plate closure? Do you have any clue about the drugs your injecting? Do you know the side effects of the drugs your injecting? Do you know anything about PCT? Again, I'm not flaming you, I'm just trying to help you.

**BUYLONGTERM** · 09-10-2004, 08:35 AM

One last bit of advise....YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH GEAR TO RUN A CYCLE.

**hung-solo** · 09-10-2004, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by buylongterm

One last bit of advise....YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH GEAR TO RUN A CYCLE.

when you do have enough gear to run look in testicle injections also..

**muff-chaser** · 09-10-2004, 02:15 PM

some people jst dont listen,

**FreddieD** · 09-13-2004, 02:53 AM

Peace guys,sorry for being an asshole.

**znak** · 09-13-2004, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by FreddieD

Peace guys,sorry for being an asshole.

Now that you are calm, read the advice given to you and you will see you have the dosage per week. You have also been told that you don't have enough gear to make a cycle.

AND...

you were told the magic abbreviation-- PCT (Post Cycle Therapy ).

Please look this up. Use the search button at the top of the page. It is very important if you like your nuts and what to have them around for a while.

People here (almost without exception) are REALLY helpful. You have to be calm and read.

When you don't really understand what you read, ask a question. "What can I stick in my ass twice a week to make me look like Jay Cutler?" Unless, you are already 300 pounds, have worked out for twenty five years and have done a few hundred cycles.

Be calm, people will help you, BUT you gotta help yourself. The info is here... find it, read it.

**FreddieD** · 09-13-2004, 07:53 AM

Thanx Zak,I'll follow the advise and do more research.
The problem is just that I was being stupid and listened to the wrong guys.

I've already started the cycle,so I'll probably have to finish it now.And it's sort of a problem cause I can't get more gear right now.

Would you guys recomend stopping the cycle right now,or just continue it ?

It's been 2 weeks now and still nothing,I can't even feel the stuff.

I know it's not nearly enough,and that I'm probably not using them 100% correctly,but Shouldn't I have at least started feeling the droids by now ?

Well next time I'll do more research before bying gear and starting a cycle.

Thanx for the help so far,and sorry for being an asshole.

**shadowman25** · 09-13-2004, 08:54 AM

you need more juice. if you want to run equipoise then you need at least 30ml of it and a 50 ml bottle of test.
500mg test and 400 mg bold per week would be a good start.
at the rate you are currently injecting 1ml and .5ml you should only expect to gain about 1/4 of a pound per week over a period of 10 weeks.

**znak** · 09-14-2004, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by FreddieD

I've already started the cycle,so I'll probably have to finish it now.And it's sort of a problem cause I can't get more gear right now.

Would you guys recomend stopping the cycle right now,or just continue it ?

It's been 2 weeks now and still nothing,I can't even feel the stuff.

I know it's not nearly enough,and that I'm probably not using them 100% correctly,but Shouldn't I have at least started feeling the droids by now ?

Well next time I'll do more research before bying gear and starting a cycle.

Thanx for the help so far,and sorry for being an asshole.

a) Do a search on PCT
b) Buy what you need
c) when you have what you need, make the decision to continue or stop (I would stop)
d) Come back to the this site: read beginner's cycles
e) Read up on PCT (you don't want to hurt yourself or have all your gain disappear.
f) Cruise this board- read.
g) Regroup and try again with the right foundation and necessary knowledge.

UNLESS YOU HAVE BEEN TRAINING FOR THREE YEARS, JUST SEND ME THE MONEY YOU ARE GOING TO SPEND ON GEAR. I'll put it to good use, because you certainly will not be.

EVeryone wants a "get big pill". Everyone on this site, knows that it takes months of work in gain an inch. We also know that inch and the next inch and the next inch will come only when your diet is right and your training is right.

Look at the whole picture, not just the drugs.

Good luck, you can do it, if you set your mind to it.

**FreddieD** · 09-16-2004, 02:42 AM

Well guys,seems like all of you were right.

I'm starting a diet from the end of this month.
And I'm bying some supplements asswell.
Some of these will include L-glutamine,Muscle fuel,weigh protiene etc.

As for the steroids ,I've decided to forget about the steroids,and just try to do it naturaly.

I'll just stick to excercising and train hard and diet right.

Thanx for all the help again guys,maybe I'll droids again after a year or 2.

Take care .
Fred.